SMG on the track

kyle46 · Sat, Nov-06-2010, 04:37:00 PM

Hey guys,

I have an SMG and since i have owned my M i have never tracked it. It does make me sad in a way because m3 is a really track oriented.

My question to those that have any experience with tracking their SMG.
How reliable is SMG for the track? I do not want to complete 2 track days and for example have my SMG die out on me. Pump or etc..

I also feel more at ease now since i have read a thread in the e46 m3 general section about SMG to 6mt conversion. Cost 800 bucks if you do it yourself about 2 grand if you give it to the shop.

It makes me feel a bit happier knowing that, because if my SMG fails i will gladly install the 6mt in there.

But from those that track their SMG how reliable is it on the track? and obviously how fun is it compared to the 6mt on the track.

Thank you in advance guys, I am just doing some research as a this point i am deciding if i should sell my car for a 6mt or just slap coilovers on and hit the track.

krisa9977 · Sat, Nov-06-2010, 05:08:50 PM

In my opinion, SMG is more reliable for the track then 6mt. SMG protects you from shifting mistakes and overreving your engine .And it is also much faster.

xM P0W3Rx · Sat, Nov-06-2010, 11:19:46 PM

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Originally Posted by krisa9977

In my opinion, SMG is more reliable for the track then 6mt. SMG protects you from shifting mistakes and overreving your engine .And it is also much faster.

Wouldn't call it more reliable, just idiot proof.

krisa9977 · Sun, Nov-07-2010, 02:53:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xM P0W3Rx

Wouldn't call it more reliable, just idiot proof.

You don't have to be an idiot to make downshifting mistake, especially on the track. One single mistake could be enough to damage your transmission or the engine.

Even if you drive without mistakes and your Heel and Toe technique is perfect, you can not compete with the robot. The way SMG does downshifting, is much safer for transmission. With SMG your gearbox and clutch last longer.

edwin814 · Sat, Nov-06-2010, 08:38:29 PM

^^^I agree. Though it's more fun to move the 6mt shifter than just the paddles.

kyle46 · Sat, Nov-06-2010, 10:48:39 PM

well said guys..lets keep em coming

_Epic_ · Sun, Nov-07-2010, 08:33:00 AM

The CSL has been made for the track and is only available with SMG

So it shouldn't be that bad on the track

ckncwmn · Sun, Nov-07-2010, 10:17:05 AM

I'd accually say more reliable on the track cause the master tech I talked to had a pattern going for the SMG. Seems like people who putt put around the city are having the problems compared to the ones that are using SMG as it was designed.

kyle46 · Tue, Nov-09-2010, 01:50:16 AM

good replies guys..now next question. Should i sell or keep my SMG car? my next car would be m3 6mt manual..maybe high mileage so i can just mod it out for the track and abuse it. My current car has been babied its whole life so its not so much of a track car

lmtfi · Tue, Nov-09-2010, 03:00:49 AM

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Originally Posted by kyle46

good replies guys..now next question. Should i sell or keep my SMG car? my next car would be m3 6mt manual..maybe high mileage so i can just mod it out for the track and abuse it. My current car has been babied its whole life so its not so much of a track car

Just take it to the track as it is. The car does not need to be modified to begin HPDEs. And don't think that HPDE = abuse. It doesn't.

Sat, Nov-06-2010, 04:37:00 PM	#1
kyle46 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 905 Reputation: 0 Location: San Francisco	SMG on the track Hey guys, I have an SMG and since i have owned my M i have never tracked it. It does make me sad in a way because m3 is a really track oriented. My question to those that have any experience with tracking their SMG. How reliable is SMG for the track? I do not want to complete 2 track days and for example have my SMG die out on me. Pump or etc.. I also feel more at ease now since i have read a thread in the e46 m3 general section about SMG to 6mt conversion. Cost 800 bucks if you do it yourself about 2 grand if you give it to the shop. It makes me feel a bit happier knowing that, because if my SMG fails i will gladly install the 6mt in there. But from those that track their SMG how reliable is it on the track? and obviously how fun is it compared to the 6mt on the track. Thank you in advance guys, I am just doing some research as a this point i am deciding if i should sell my car for a 6mt or just slap coilovers on and hit the track. __________________

Sat, Nov-06-2010, 05:08:50 PM	#2
krisa9977 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 236 Reputation: 0 Location: Miami USA, Nürburg Germany	In my opinion, SMG is more reliable for the track then 6mt. SMG protects you from shifting mistakes and overreving your engine .And it is also much faster. __________________ Denis Malevanyi VLN Nurburgring 2009 E46 M3 production class V6

Sat, Nov-06-2010, 08:38:29 PM	#5
edwin814 ARM Powered Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 3,345 Reputation: 0 Location: Bay Area	^^^I agree. Though it's more fun to move the 6mt shifter than just the paddles. __________________ 1968 Porsche 912 2011 Porsche GT3 RS 2006 Interlago blue OEM CSL Dinan S3-R M3 (Gone) 1988 E30 Henna M3 S50B32 (Gone) 2006 Ducati Burnt Yellow SportClassic Sport1000

Sat, Nov-06-2010, 10:48:39 PM	#6
kyle46 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 905 Reputation: 0 Location: San Francisco	well said guys..lets keep em coming __________________

Sun, Nov-07-2010, 08:33:00 AM	#7
_Epic_ Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 66 Reputation: 0	The CSL has been made for the track and is only available with SMG So it shouldn't be that bad on the track __________________ AA Gen 6 Lvl 1.5 Euro Headers, Supersprint Section 1 & 2, Eisenmann exhaust AC-Schnitzer coilovers, Mov'It BBK, Full CSL body&interior, BBS LM 19'

Sun, Nov-07-2010, 10:17:05 AM	#8
ckncwmn Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 304 Reputation: 0	I'd accually say more reliable on the track cause the master tech I talked to had a pattern going for the SMG. Seems like people who putt put around the city are having the problems compared to the ones that are using SMG as it was designed.

Tue, Nov-09-2010, 01:50:16 AM	#9
kyle46 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 905 Reputation: 0 Location: San Francisco	good replies guys..now next question. Should i sell or keep my SMG car? my next car would be m3 6mt manual..maybe high mileage so i can just mod it out for the track and abuse it. My current car has been babied its whole life so its not so much of a track car __________________

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