muffler advice needed

m3816 · Sun, Nov-14-2010, 04:44:08 PM

I am running stepped headers. with everything else stock. In a few months I will be running 200 cell cats and I like to know what is a good muffler to run...

1. I don't want too much drone.
2. I want it to be lighter than stock box, by 20-25lb.
3. I don't like the idea of the tips having a Y shape such as Rogue.
4. I don't want it to be any louder having an AP muffler on a stock exhaust system. anything louder is just too much for me
5. I like it to fit right too.

I was thinking of miltek, essinmann race....please give me some ideas.

also does less drone mean less flow...?

paciotti959 · Sun, Nov-14-2010, 05:31:46 PM

Just installed my eisenmann race and love it.
I think by far either eisenmann race or gruppe m u won't go wrong.

Good luck

bzsbimmer · Sun, Nov-14-2010, 05:43:43 PM

The Eisenmann race is out if you're looking for weight. The muffler is not that much lighter or smaller than stock. The rogue is smaller and lighter but I'm not quite sure what you mean about the "y"

normcaldwell · Sun, Nov-14-2010, 05:49:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m3816

I am running stepped headers. with everything else stock. In a few months I will be running 200 cell cats and I like to know what is a good muffler to run...

1. I don't want too much drone.
2. I want it to be lighter than stock box, by 20-25lb.
3. I don't like the idea of the tips having a Y shape such as Rogue.
4. I don't want it to be any louder having an AP muffler on a stock exhaust system. anything louder is just too much for me
5. I like it to fit right too.

I was thinking of miltek, essinmann race....please give me some ideas.

also does less drone mean less flow...?

Well, drone is how the increased resonance sounds to you; it's different for each person.
I'm reading good reports about the Scorza muffler. From the reports, it meets your 5 requirements.

m3816 · Mon, Nov-15-2010, 01:48:56 AM

notice how the tips look like a Y. that is my main problem. It is really 1 pipe made into two.

paciotti959: How much does the Esseinmann race weight ?

normcaldwell: I have considered Scoroza but the tips have the same issue as Rogue

BM-Power · Mon, Nov-15-2010, 04:44:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m3816

How much does the Esseinmann race weight ?

About 40-45lbs as far as I remember..................

mredwin25 · Mon, Nov-15-2010, 02:27:36 PM

well I was in the same boat as you, wanted a nice looking exhaust, no drone and not too loud. AA exhausts are very nice and agressive looking, fully polished stainless steel, I was running a Gen 3 and it was too loud for my taste, I just bought their new Gen 6, a bit lighter not by much and sound is very nice, deeper sound, a bit louder than stock, rasp is 98% gone thanks to the two in-line resonators and also I have a RE rasp pipe, headers no cats. I love the staggered tips on the new Gen 6, very nice piece

Mookster · Mon, Nov-15-2010, 04:26:33 PM

Scorza exhaust might be your fit

Cult Hero · Mon, Nov-15-2010, 04:41:37 PM

well I have your setup with euro cats instead of the 200 cell. I have a milltek section II and used to have a Milltek muffler. Recently traded to a Supersprint Race. I loved the milltek but it was a little quiet for my tastes. The Supersprint is quite a bit louder but I love it. I would recommend the Milltek for what you are asking.

Plus they have some of the best looking tips on the market.

JUICINBIMMER · Mon, Nov-15-2010, 04:44:44 PM

scorza FTW

Sun, Nov-14-2010, 04:44:08 PM	#1
m3816 Shhh..my foot is sleepin on the gas Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 3,601 Reputation: 0 Location: Planet Earth	muffler advice needed I am running stepped headers. with everything else stock. In a few months I will be running 200 cell cats and I like to know what is a good muffler to run... 1. I don't want too much drone. 2. I want it to be lighter than stock box, by 20-25lb. 3. I don't like the idea of the tips having a Y shape such as Rogue. 4. I don't want it to be any louder having an AP muffler on a stock exhaust system. anything louder is just too much for me 5. I like it to fit right too. I was thinking of miltek, essinmann race....please give me some ideas. also does less drone mean less flow...? __________________ HKS GTS8550 Stage II SuperSprintAeromotive Clutch Masters4.10Rogue Engineering KW3H&RGround ControlEuro rotorsSS lines 42 DesignVorsteinerBimmianApex//M-Alcantara 507WHP @ 8400rpm-11.2psi . Need a Expert BMW tech in the DMV Pm Me

Sun, Nov-14-2010, 05:43:43 PM	#3
bzsbimmer Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 929 Reputation: 0 Location: Modesto, Central Valley	The Eisenmann race is out if you're looking for weight. The muffler is not that much lighter or smaller than stock. The rogue is smaller and lighter but I'm not quite sure what you mean about the "y" __________________ Helping the economy one mod at a time

Mon, Nov-15-2010, 01:48:56 AM	#5
m3816 Shhh..my foot is sleepin on the gas Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 3,601 Reputation: 0 Location: Planet Earth	notice how the tips look like a Y. that is my main problem. It is really 1 pipe made into two. paciotti959: How much does the Esseinmann race weight ? normcaldwell: I have considered Scoroza but the tips have the same issue as Rogue __________________ HKS GTS8550 Stage II SuperSprintAeromotive Clutch Masters4.10Rogue Engineering KW3H&RGround ControlEuro rotorsSS lines 42 DesignVorsteinerBimmianApex//M-Alcantara 507WHP @ 8400rpm-11.2psi . Need a Expert BMW tech in the DMV Pm Me

Mon, Nov-15-2010, 02:27:36 PM	#7
mredwin25 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,721 Reputation: 0 Location: Broward	well I was in the same boat as you, wanted a nice looking exhaust, no drone and not too loud. AA exhausts are very nice and agressive looking, fully polished stainless steel, I was running a Gen 3 and it was too loud for my taste, I just bought their new Gen 6, a bit lighter not by much and sound is very nice, deeper sound, a bit louder than stock, rasp is 98% gone thanks to the two in-line resonators and also I have a RE rasp pipe, headers no cats. I love the staggered tips on the new Gen 6, very nice piece __________________ E90 Jerez M3 335i Vert

Mon, Nov-15-2010, 04:26:33 PM	#8
Mookster Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 3,145 Reputation: 0 Location: Seattle	Scorza exhaust might be your fit __________________

Sun, Nov-14-2010, 05:31:46 PM	#2
paciotti959 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 30 In the garage: '97 PORSCHE 911 Reputation: 0	Just installed my eisenmann race and love it. I think by far either eisenmann race or gruppe m u won't go wrong. Good luck

Mon, Nov-15-2010, 04:41:37 PM	#9
Cult Hero Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 991 Reputation: 0 Location: Santa Barbara	well I have your setup with euro cats instead of the 200 cell. I have a milltek section II and used to have a Milltek muffler. Recently traded to a Supersprint Race. I loved the milltek but it was a little quiet for my tastes. The Supersprint is quite a bit louder but I love it. I would recommend the Milltek for what you are asking. Plus they have some of the best looking tips on the market. __________________ 05 ZCP AW Cinnamon

Mon, Nov-15-2010, 04:44:44 PM	#10
JUICINBIMMER Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 2,216 In the garage: '04 BMW M3 Reputation: 0 Location: South Jersey	scorza FTW __________________ 2004 ///M3 - Silver Grey / Black (GONE)

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