[stefan_]

Originally Posted by wilmar13

I hope you guys acting like E9x fanboys are just trolling, and don’t seriously think weight is not the most important factor regarding handling dynamics… If you believe a 3700 lb 414hp car would even be able to lap the same tight road course as a 2700 lb with 300HP (same power to weight) let alone a 2700 lb car with 414hp, you are yet one more person reinforcing the general perception that M3 drivers are clueless douches. Maybe you should take your whip to a track day and get your ass handed to you by an ancient (designed in the 1950’s!) Lotus 7 with half your HP, or even a decent driver in a stock Miata. Go back to seeing how fast you can take the overpass and reading Motortrend, and stop poo-pooing a thread discussing something you don’t understand… there are plenty of threads on here about carbon fiber trim and stereo upgrades for you to stay occupied. Yes the E9x is a newer car, congratulations captain obvious. As to why that has anything to do with taking the motor out of it and putting it in a lighter more agile platform, is beyond me.

Whew.. 3 pages in and finally.. thank you. E92 vs E46 really comes down to choice. I just sold my E46 for an E92 simply because I wanted to customize a new vehicle with specifications I wasn't able to find in a used one. I think they are cool.. that's about it. E46 is a lot cheaper.

As for the swap, I would do it only for the fun of doing a swap, that's about it.

[Dizzeep]

Originally Posted by EricSMG

This thread was extremely frustrating to read... lots of baseless opinions based on "theory" when half the people haven't even driven the current model.

The new car is faster than the 46M, in every measurable criteria, end of story. Yeah, it weighs a little more, but it's all RELATIVE people. The wieght delta is roughly the same as the delta between the 36 and 46.... except that the 46 offers no real handling advantage over the 36 while the E9X flat kills the 46 in the handling dept., but you 46M fanboys conveniently overlook this. Stop bitching (or clinging to, rather) about how heavy it is. If you don't like it, fine, but for the love of God accept the performance facts and freaking appreciate what a fine automobile it is.

After all, it's an M3. It kicks ass. It's the model we all (should) love.

well said. in a perfect forum world this thread would die... highly doubt that it will though.

[opey]

god there's a lot of idiotic s$hit in this thread

[donnatronious]

Originally Posted by little lai

what is that supposed to mean

Explains how a gtr can outhandle an e46 m3 when it weighs more, get it?

[drunk hal]

Originally Posted by mmihld

All things being equal, weight has nothing to do with handling capability.

Originally Posted by donnatronious

Explains how a gtr can outhandle an e46 m3 when it weighs more, get it?

Uh no, the post I quoted says "All things being equal..." AWD vs. RWD plus gobs more horsepower and more modern suspension design does not mean all things equal. ****ing clown shoes, you're wearing them.

[wilmar13]

I think the actual intent of the thread was answered as the S65 being about 33lbs lighter than the S54 apples to apples due to the long cast iron block vs Al block of the S65.

Still have not seen anyone plop it in something else though, which would be really cool. Maybe in a few more years it will be more popular/viable, just like putting an S54 in an E36 is now.

[donnatronious]

Originally Posted by little lai

Uh no, the post I quoted says "All things being equal..." AWD vs. RWD plus gobs more horsepower and more modern suspension design does not mean all things equal. ****ing clown shoes, you're wearing them.

You are intentionally interpreting his statement in a fashion which allows you to argue the obvious. Really cool, please continue.

[drunk hal]

Originally Posted by donnatronious

You are intentionally interpreting his statement in a fashion which allows you to argue the obvious. Really cool, please continue.

Speaking of what is obvious...no matter how you slice it, handling is affected by weight. Or are you taking the position that extra weight can be masked through drivetrain layout, increasing power? Either way, it should be obvious what is true. Go find someone else to troll.

[Rez]

Since the question was answered this thread is now closed for obvious reasons