[CSLDAWM3]

Originally Posted by BobsM3Coupe

Over dealer invoice which is the same as actual cost. Tell him you saw the post on bimmerfest.

this is not true there are 1000's in back end dollars even before dealer rebates

in fact new m3s last month dealerships were getting 8,000 back under invoice.

M6/m6's up to 12,000.

[Fooshe55]

Originally Posted by BobsM3Coupe

Over dealer invoice which is the same as actual cost. Tell him you saw the post on bimmerfest.

FYI...Dealer invoice is not the actual cost of the car to the dealership. Most people don't know about the trunk money or hold back dollars. Since the dealership is selling a car that will technically sit in their inventory until it is sold, they also get money from the factory built into the car to fund the general advertising and flooring subsidy that they MFG's give back to the dealers based on how long the car is at the dealership. Since they sold it right away, they get all that money. For every day it sits at the dealership, money is "debited" from that "account" to help pay for those costs. This is why dealerships want the sales contract dated as far back as possible.

Also, factory to dealer incentives also lower the "cost" of the car to the dealership. Stictly speaking, the consumer is not entitled to that money, but they dealer will traditionally dip into that money to move the car.

[Fooshe55]

PACKAGE OPTIONS INVOICE/STICKER
1.COMPETITION PACKAGE -inc: electronic damping control, 19" light-alloy wheels (style 395M), performance tires, lowered suspension, sport mapping for electronic damping control (EDC) & dynamic stability control (DSC) $2,275 $2,500
2. COLD WEATHER PACKAGE -inc: heated front seats, ski bag, retractable headlight washers $685 $750
3. PREMIUM PACKAGE -inc: pwr folding exterior mirrors, universal garage door opener, upgraded interior trim, digital compass mirror, BMW Assist, Bluetooth, upgraded seat trim *When ordered w/ZTP Technology pgk includes online information services & online platform* $1,820 $2,000
4. TECHNOLOGY PACKAGE -inc: electronic damping control, M Drive, comfort access keyless entry, navigation system, voice command, real time traffic info *When ordered w/ZPP Premium pkg or 639 BMW assist includes online information services & online platform* $2,960 $3,250

TRANSMISSION INVOICE/STICKER
5. 6-SPEED MANUAL TRANSMISSION with additional oil cooler and heavy-duty dual-disc clutch (STD) STANDARD STANDARD
6. 7-SPEED M DOUBLE CLUTCH TRANSMISSION -inc: Drivelogic $2,640 $2,900

SEAT TRIM INVOICE/STICKER
7. ANTHRACITE/BLACK, CLOTH & LEATHER SEAT TRIM (STD) STANDARD STANDARD
8. SILVER, NOVILLO LEATHER SEAT TRIM $865 $950
9. FOX RED, NOVILLO LEATHER SEAT TRIM $865 $950
10. BAMBOO BEIGE, NOVILLO LEATHER SEAT TRIM $865 $950
11. BLACK, NOVILLO LEATHER SEAT TRIM $865 $950
12. SILVER, EXTENDED NOVILLO LEATHER SEAT TRIM (REQ: ZTP Technology Pkg) $1,820 $2,000
13. FOX RED, EXTENDED NOVILLO LEATHER SEAT TRIM (REQ: ZTP Technology Pkg) $1,820 $2,000
14. BEIGE, EXTENDED NOVILLO LEATHER SEAT TRIM (REQ: ZTP Technology Pkg) $1,820 $2,000
15. BLACK, EXTENDED NOVILLO LEATHER SEAT TRIM (REQ: ZTP Technology Pkg) $1,820 $2,000

PAINT INVOICE/STICKER
16. ALPINE WHITE STANDARD STANDARD
17. JET BLACK $0 $0
18. LE MANS BLUE METALLIC $500 $550
19. SILVERSTONE METALLIC $500 $550
20. INTERLAGOS BLUE METALLIC $500 $550
21. SPACE GRAY METALLIC $500 $550
22. JEREZ BLACK METALLIC $500 $550
23. MELBOURNE RED METALLIC $500 $550

PAINT SCHEME INVOICE/STICKER
24. STANDARD PAINT STANDARD STANDARD

ADDITIONAL OPTIONS INVOICE/STICKER
25. 19" X 8.5" FRONT & 19" X 9.5" REAR FORGED & POLISHED DOUBLE SPOKE ALLOY WHEELS (STYLE 220M) -inc: P245/35R19 front & P265/35R19 rear run-flat performance tires (N/A w/ZCP Competition Pkg) $1,090 $1,200
26. MOONROOF $0 $0
27. AUTO HIGH BEAMS (REQ: ZPP Premium Pkg) $230 $250
28. SATELLITE RADIO -inc: (1) year subscription $320 $350
29. ENHANCED PREMIUM SOUND (REQ: ZTP Technology Pkg) $1,730 $1,900
30. IPOD & USB ADAPTER $365 $400
31. SMARTPHONE INTEGRATION (REQ: 6FL iPod & USB Adapter) (REQ: ZPP Premium Pkg or 639 BMW Assist) $135 $150
32. HEATED FRONT SEATS $455 $500
33. ANTI-THEFT ALARM SYSTEM $365 $400
34. BLUE-GRAY BRUSHED ALUMINUM TRIM $455 $500
35. CARBON LEATHER INTERIOR TRIM $455 $500
36. SYCAMORE ANTHRACITE WOOD TRIM $455 $500
37. BMW ASSIST -inc: Bluetooth $685 $750
38. REAR PARK DISTANCE CONTROL $345 $380

GAS GUZZLER TAX INVOICE/STICKER
39. GAS GUZZLER TAX $1,300 $1,300

[BobsM3Coupe]

Originally Posted by Fooshe55

FYI...Dealer invoice is not the actual cost of the car to the dealership. Most people don't know about the trunk money or hold back dollars. Since the dealership is selling a car that will technically sit in their inventory until it is sold, they also get money from the factory built into the car to fund the general advertising and flooring subsidy that they MFG's give back to the dealers based on how long the car is at the dealership. Since they sold it right away, they get all that money. For every day it sits at the dealership, money is "debited" from that "account" to help pay for those costs. This is why dealerships want the sales contract dated as far back as possible.

Also, factory to dealer incentives also lower the "cost" of the car to the dealership. Stictly speaking, the consumer is not entitled to that money, but they dealer will traditionally dip into that money to move the car.

This is all true, but no one other than a dealership knows what those numbers are. So it's easier to know the dealer invoice posted at KBB, Edmunds and deal from that point.