[meccanoble]

Originally Posted by kyle46

it will probably sound like a current n54 (335i) motor which is HORRIBLE! I don't see why they couldn't just add a turbo on the current v8, would have improved gas mileage and probably kept the american muscle boys at peace..v8 turbo i imagine would have been 520hp 470tq stock? with chip we could be looking at 600whp? Oh well..new technology.

wow, that would be insane and makes so much sense. M went from 4 banger to 6 and to 8. Now going back to 6 for boost?....no one would complain about a boosted 8.

M3 has 4 doors and M4 has 2 doors. WTF? Makes more sense if the M3 had 2 doors and M4 (4???) has 4 doors? No idea why it even needs a new name change. There should be a bigger difference than door difference for it to be badged differently, considering previous M3's had 2 and 4 door options....

a tri turbo would be a great resolution to your average car turbo weakness. 2 turbo's start off like other cars usually do and an electric turbo that kicks in after a certain rpm to improve power at the higher rpm's. Similar to how the porshe wing goes up after 80 mph, let the 3rd electric controlled turbo kick in after like 60 rpms, and throw a 9 or 9.5k rev on that bad boy. Eureka, I think I found out what is about to happen!

[ASC FTL]

Straight six is a better, more efficient configuration than 90 degree v8, or a 60 degree v6.

Fi is a good thing too - increases volumetric efficiency. Anyway even Ray Charles saw a turbo i6 coming. Why would they bother designing an all-new and inferior configuration like a V6??? Crazy! Also we knew that all BMWs will be FI for a long time now. So all includes the M3

[ASC FTL]

Originally Posted by SYT_Shadow

I mean I prefer a V6 NA to a turbo I6

[VwAlex]

Originally Posted by meccanoble

Didnt read through all the pages but I see a lot of hate for FI on the new M. I agree a non turbo inline 6 is what made the M3 so special all these years but times have changed and everyone is cheating with FI. The e46 seems to have pushed the limit on a 6 cylinder. Only other option I can see is making the new M with the biggest 6 cylinder (3.8L?) but even that size wont bring the M up to 400 horses which is considered low for today's flagship sports car. Unless the M is the lightest ever with an even higher rev option, how can it compete without FI?

What do you make of the gt3? Still n/a, still a flat six and still the top dog.

A turbo m3, I might as well go Audi and have awd to help me with the torque... or just keep my e46.

[Alex Lipowich]

Originally Posted by kaiv

I don't mean to discuss semantics but at 4 liters of displacement, the S65 is hardly "big". And if you meant physical size and it's lighter and more compact than the S54.

Does anyone know this factually?

When I took S54 and S62 to the scales, there was quite a difference from the internet information that the s62 was lighter. Depending on configuration there is 75 lb or more difference favoring the S54.

In terms of being more compact, it may well be shorter as a V8, but it is also wider with two cylinderheads, 4 cams and such, and a more complex oilpump system etc.... The actual block is wider, and there are a pair of heads, so volume wise, not so sure its really more compact.

Surely given a flip of the coin I'd prefer the 4.0 V8, make no mistake about it.

[riskee]

Originally Posted by meccanoble

wow, that would be insane and makes so much sense. M went from 4 banger to 6 and to 8. Now going back to 6 for boost?....no one would complain about a boosted 8.

M3 has 4 doors and M4 has 2 doors. WTF? Makes more sense if the M3 had 2 doors and M4 (4???) has 4 doors? No idea why it even needs a new name change. There should be a bigger difference than door difference for it to be badged differently, considering previous M3's had 2 and 4 door options....

a tri turbo would be a great resolution to your average car turbo weakness. 2 turbo's start off like other cars usually do and an electric turbo that kicks in after a certain rpm to improve power at the higher rpm's. Similar to how the porshe wing goes up after 80 mph, let the 3rd electric controlled turbo kick in after like 60 rpms, and throw a 9 or 9.5k rev on that bad boy. Eureka, I think I found out what is about to happen!

when i get this car the coupe m4 i will take the badge of and rename it a m3 like it should be