M3 - NFL running back style: TC Kline suspension, RTAB and OEM brake upgrade

mikymu · Mon, Oct-01-2007, 07:52:58 PM

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Originally Posted by desaille

nice write up miky

booo on the quiet pads, i wanna hear some damn screeching when you stop,

the damn Axxis ultimate squeak so freaking loud prior to the "OEM" brake upgrade people on the street try to wave me down and tell me i ran over a cat and it's still under my car LOL

after the OEM brake upgrade - literally ZERO noise and tons of unadulterated braking fun

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Originally Posted by mpegripper

great, he does the write up after i install all those things 4 weeks ago

.... we can always take your suspension apart, clean it and install again for fun

Mash3 · Mon, Oct-01-2007, 07:55:01 PM

Great write up!

I'm printing this out and saving it because I'm going to do this upgrade soon. Looks like fun!

Greg

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mikymu · Tue, Oct-02-2007, 12:35:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Mash3

I'm printing this out and saving it because I'm going to do this upgrade soon. Looks like fun!

Greg.

Greg, you will love the improvement ... guaranteed

mike

ILLWILL · Tue, Oct-02-2007, 01:39:01 AM

hows the ride comfort now?

wyiel · Tue, Oct-02-2007, 07:46:27 AM

Nice going with the writeup - I love it when people go the extra length to put out this kind of DIY information to the community.

I second mikymu's suggestion to lube the bushings (a LOT). When I swapped out the RTAB's on my ///M Roadster, I forgot to lube them, and after a few months, they started to squeak quite loudly. It was pretty embarassing. So, I ended up dropping my rear subframe & _slathering_ the bushings with lithium grease.

One question, though, mikymu - do you think it's possible to get at least an OEM-soft ride with any kind of performance aftermarket suspension? My M3's nothing more than a (badass-lookin') commuter car, and I already think the ride's pretty harsh stock. I'd be all for upgrading the suspension, but want a smoother ride than these OEM suspension + CSL wheels are giving me.

gixxer · Tue, Oct-02-2007, 07:55:01 AM

Urgh, Mike, you sure you don't want to come up to Boise to help me out ???

Anyway, offer to bring you out here still stands...

Oh, and killer DIY !!!

scottEdog · Tue, Oct-02-2007, 08:58:56 AM

Mikes care is amazing! His write-ups are even more so.

His car out performed my car this Sunday through the turns at high speed°™that is for sure. I look forward to getting the help needed to make this upgrade on my car in the next few weeks, Mike. And don't worry I will wait for you this time before I get started - Lol.

Can't wait for another drive!

350banshee · Tue, Oct-02-2007, 11:50:24 AM

Since we're talking about Loctite and alignments....If I were to take out my Rogue Eng. Rtabs to lube them, would I have to get re-aligned?

vndkshn · Tue, Oct-02-2007, 01:15:36 PM

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Originally Posted by wyiel

One question, though, mikymu - do you think it's possible to get at least an OEM-soft ride with any kind of performance aftermarket suspension? My M3's nothing more than a (badass-lookin') commuter car, and I already think the ride's pretty harsh stock. I'd be all for upgrading the suspension, but want a smoother ride than these OEM suspension + CSL wheels are giving me.

Honestly, the stock suspension is pretty harsh. The majority of the aftermarket systems I have ridden in (other than the track prepped cars which are running more swaybar and stiffer springs) have ridden BETTER than stock. I've ridden in a couple of TCK S/A cars with 500/500 springs and it rides much better than my 05 ZCP.

As long as you don't go beyond 500, it will be a better ride.

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Originally Posted by 350banshee

Since we're talking about Loctite and alignments....If I were to take out my Rogue Eng. Rtabs to lube them, would I have to get re-aligned?

Yes.

**Obioban** · Tue, Oct-02-2007, 01:41:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wyiel

One question, though, mikymu - do you think it's possible to get at least an OEM-soft ride with any kind of performance aftermarket suspension? My M3's nothing more than a (badass-lookin') commuter car, and I already think the ride's pretty harsh stock. I'd be all for upgrading the suspension, but want a smoother ride than these OEM suspension + CSL wheels are giving me.

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Originally Posted by vndkshn

Honestly, the stock suspension is pretty harsh. The majority of the aftermarket systems I have ridden in (other than the track prepped cars which are running more swaybar and stiffer springs) have ridden BETTER than stock. I've ridden in a couple of TCK S/A cars with 500/500 springs and it rides much better than my 05 ZCP.

As long as you don't go beyond 500, it will be a better ride.

Yes.

Further, I've ridden in a TCK car with 400lb springs on all 4 corners-- that car was incredibly comfortable and handled better than stock. As in, it rode like a 325 non sport package. I was blown away.

Mon, Oct-01-2007, 07:55:01 PM	#32
Mash3 Look out below! Join Date: Aug 2003 Age: 43 Posts: 6,546 Reputation: 0 Location: Hollywierd	Great write up! I'm printing this out and saving it because I'm going to do this upgrade soon. Looks like fun! Greg . __________________ Forum Member Since 2003. . . 2004 M3, SG/ IR. 75k miles. Original owner.

Tue, Oct-02-2007, 07:46:27 AM	#35
wyiel Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 149 Reputation: 0 Location: Seattle	Nice going with the writeup - I love it when people go the extra length to put out this kind of DIY information to the community. I second mikymu's suggestion to lube the bushings (a LOT). When I swapped out the RTAB's on my ///M Roadster, I forgot to lube them, and after a few months, they started to squeak quite loudly. It was pretty embarassing. So, I ended up dropping my rear subframe & _slathering_ the bushings with lithium grease. One question, though, mikymu - do you think it's possible to get at least an OEM-soft ride with any kind of performance aftermarket suspension? My M3's nothing more than a (badass-lookin') commuter car, and I already think the ride's pretty harsh stock. I'd be all for upgrading the suspension, but want a smoother ride than these OEM suspension + CSL wheels are giving me. __________________ Wish List (Please PM me if you have any for sale): --------------------------------------------------- Painted Reflectors (Steel Gray) Angel Eyes Trunk Cargo Net

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gixxer Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,686 Reputation: 0	Urgh, Mike, you sure you don't want to come up to Boise to help me out ??? Anyway, offer to bring you out here still stands... Oh, and killer DIY !!! __________________ need2buy: LTW flywheel + clutch ; wish: HPF ; Mod Journal

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