Transmission 5th gear/reverse detent fix with TIS

OahuMPower · Fri, Mar-20-2009, 11:00:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedboneHound

I'm assuming this kit does NOT include parts 12, 14, and 16. Is that correct?

correct.. I'll post a picture of whats included in that kit, when BFC comes back online..

OahuMPower · Fri, Mar-20-2009, 11:02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by T2

Is a 6-speed ever in your plans?

way down the line, but not anytime soon...

DA's, cam's, custom tune, diff, spoiler all will be first before 6 speed

ArBrnSnpr · Sat, Mar-21-2009, 01:19:50 AM

Someting I've always wanted to do - I'll save it for when I'm doing the clutch swap

OahuMPower · Sat, Mar-21-2009, 07:37:22 AM

the clutch parts are sitting at home, so I figured now was as good of a time as ever... part list to follow soon

EDIT: BFC is still down, nevermind

OahuMPower · Sat, Mar-21-2009, 02:55:34 PM

pictures from the repair kit, and a custom drift tool.. I will post up all part numbers, and pictures of the drift tool set I bought in a few

OahuMPower · Sat, Mar-21-2009, 03:07:11 PM

custom drift set of tools I just bought for everything

5th Gear drift
Reverse Gear drift
5th/Reverse Cap drift

Catch pin drift
Catch pin Cap drift

OahuMPower · Sat, Mar-21-2009, 03:28:45 PM

All right.. here we go ... part #'s for those interested

23 11 7 542 726 (one bushing, sealing cap and snap ring) (one for 5th, one for reverse, one for 1st gear (if you want to do the third), order one extra if you think you might ruin one of the bushings, approx $5 a kit)
23 31 1 224 817 (reverse spring) real oem # 13
23 31 1 224 935 (5th gear spring) real oem #11
23 31 1 224 819 (1st gear spring) #15
23 31 7 502 165 (lock pin for 5th gear) #12
23 31 1 224 849 (lock pin for reverse gear) #14
23 31 1 224 823 (lock pin for 1st gear) #16

these part numbers will allow you to fix the 5th gear "lean" during cold weather. Also cleans up the "gate" into Reverse, as well as 1st gear. Most people usually only do 5th gear, and reverse gear

these part #'s are to fix the catch pin's per the service bulletin
23 11 7 525 048 (pins with bushings and springs, need 3) real oem #28
23 31 7 531 369 (seal caps, need 3) real oem #25

primary sources of information here
http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum...9&postcount=11

real oem diagram link again here
http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts...29&hg=23&fg=15

the seal cap part # on real oem, and the link on BFC do not match up, but it is explained in this thread which is where the single post came from
http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum...d.php?t=828060

OahuMPower · Sat, Mar-21-2009, 03:40:21 PM

just looked everything up at Tischer. If you get 3 repair kits (1 extra in case you screw up) and only do the 5th gear/reverse fix, (most common), new lock pins for both, and new springs for both, total would be $32.41 plus shipping

if you want to do the catch pin upgrade as well.. (I am going to order one extra, just in case, but for "reference" 3 repair kits, and 3 sealing caps, would be $31.89 plus shipping

As you can see, this is a cheap "fix" for the common E36 transmission gate issue, but the DIY can get a little tricky if you dont have the right tools. I have posted links to threads on BFC explaining everything, and if you spend 30-45 mins reading up on everything, you should be able to figure out what direction you want to go it

GOOD LUCK, and I hope everything works out

**porschetech** · Sat, Mar-21-2009, 09:35:04 PM

looking good

OahuMPower · Sat, Mar-21-2009, 09:48:22 PM

thanks Anf.. I put in some work making sure I was getting all the correct part numbers, tools, etc...

can't wait to actually put all the info to use, and work on my tranny

Sat, Mar-21-2009, 01:19:50 AM	#13
ArBrnSnpr Likes M118LR Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 1,572 Reputation: 0 Location: Portland	Someting I've always wanted to do - I'll save it for when I'm doing the clutch swap __________________

Sat, Mar-21-2009, 03:28:45 PM	#17
OahuMPower :FACEPALM: Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 26,499 Reputation: 0 Location: San Diego	All right.. here we go ... part #'s for those interested 23 11 7 542 726 (one bushing, sealing cap and snap ring) (one for 5th, one for reverse, one for 1st gear (if you want to do the third), order one extra if you think you might ruin one of the bushings, approx $5 a kit) 23 31 1 224 817 (reverse spring) real oem # 13 23 31 1 224 935 (5th gear spring) real oem #11 23 31 1 224 819 (1st gear spring) #15 23 31 7 502 165 (lock pin for 5th gear) #12 23 31 1 224 849 (lock pin for reverse gear) #14 23 31 1 224 823 (lock pin for 1st gear) #16 these part numbers will allow you to fix the 5th gear "lean" during cold weather. Also cleans up the "gate" into Reverse, as well as 1st gear. Most people usually only do 5th gear, and reverse gear these part #'s are to fix the catch pin's per the service bulletin 23 11 7 525 048 (pins with bushings and springs, need 3) real oem #28 23 31 7 531 369 (seal caps, need 3) real oem #25 primary sources of information here http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum...9&postcount=11 real oem diagram link again here http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts...29&hg=23&fg=15 the seal cap part # on real oem, and the link on BFC do not match up, but it is explained in this thread which is where the single post came from http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum...d.php?t=828060 __________________

Sat, Mar-21-2009, 03:40:21 PM	#18
OahuMPower :FACEPALM: Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 26,499 Reputation: 0 Location: San Diego	just looked everything up at Tischer. If you get 3 repair kits (1 extra in case you screw up) and only do the 5th gear/reverse fix, (most common), new lock pins for both, and new springs for both, total would be $32.41 plus shipping if you want to do the catch pin upgrade as well.. (I am going to order one extra, just in case, but for "reference" 3 repair kits, and 3 sealing caps, would be $31.89 plus shipping As you can see, this is a cheap "fix" for the common E36 transmission gate issue, but the DIY can get a little tricky if you dont have the right tools. I have posted links to threads on BFC explaining everything, and if you spend 30-45 mins reading up on everything, you should be able to figure out what direction you want to go it GOOD LUCK, and I hope everything works out __________________

Sat, Mar-21-2009, 09:35:04 PM	#19
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Sat, Mar-21-2009, 09:48:22 PM	#20
OahuMPower :FACEPALM: Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 26,499 Reputation: 0 Location: San Diego	thanks Anf.. I put in some work making sure I was getting all the correct part numbers, tools, etc... can't wait to actually put all the info to use, and work on my tranny __________________

Sat, Mar-21-2009, 07:37:22 AM	#14
OahuMPower :FACEPALM: Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 26,499 Reputation: 0 Location: San Diego	the clutch parts are sitting at home, so I figured now was as good of a time as ever... part list to follow soon EDIT: BFC is still down, nevermind __________________ Last edited by OahuMPower; Sat, Mar-21-2009 at 07:40:52 AM.

Sat, Mar-21-2009, 02:55:34 PM	#15
OahuMPower :FACEPALM: Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 26,499 Reputation: 0 Location: San Diego	pictures from the repair kit, and a custom drift tool.. I will post up all part numbers, and pictures of the drift tool set I bought in a few __________________

Sat, Mar-21-2009, 03:07:11 PM	#16
OahuMPower :FACEPALM: Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 26,499 Reputation: 0 Location: San Diego	custom drift set of tools I just bought for everything 5th Gear drift Reverse Gear drift 5th/Reverse Cap drift Catch pin drift Catch pin Cap drift __________________

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