▀▄ eas - e92 LED Angel Eye progress information

**tom @ eas** · Fri, Apr-17-2009, 05:25:42 AM

Sorry for the lack of updates, I'm currently in Taipei at the moment at AMPA with some business associates and will be returning shortly.

First moment of discussion - daytime pictures.

The LEDs being used are an SMT LED 5500K equivalent which give off a bright white light, unfortunately - it can be a bit hard to catch in photos. What we do not want to do is digitally enhance the photos (ie: photoshop) since this is not a true indicator of what they look like in person.

Those in the SoCal area are more than welcome to stop by and see the vehicles in person.

There have been a LOT of contenders in the Angel Eyes for coming up with a possible solution - most of them were failures. And don't even get me going on GP Thunders. There's a reason why we haven't offered anything in the past - simply because there was better coming in the near future, which is about here.

Here's a diagram of the fiber path used in the e92 setup:

The inner lamp will always get a direct shot from the bulb (H8). However, the outer projector will always be weaker due to the travel path needed in the fiber lines to illuminate the ring. This is why the outer rings are always dimmer than the inner.

All the latest and greatest bulbs on the market will not correct this design. This HID kits are interesting as they use a very high color temperature, reducing the lumen output in order to illuminate the rings. Unfortunately - this gives a very blue color, which is not what we're looking for. Also - HIDs run at very high temperatures. These headlamps are by no means cheap to replace.

Voltage Requirements:

E9x M3 headlights are very sensitive to voltage and can give off errors if the proper resistance is not detected as what the system would expect from a H8 bulb - a reason to why "resistor packs" are required on the HID setups. LED systems use a driver pack, which will be integrated into the system to keep these errors from appearing.

System uses very little power and is double the output (10W) than most kits with no flickering experienced from the vehicle's bulbcheck system

Durability Testing:

We have had 4 vehicles in testing since late December with no errors produced. One car you haven't seen would be our Project1 from the 1addicts forums:

We're about as excited as you are.

Things to expect:

- 5500-6000K temperature for a bright, white light.
- Easy 10-minute installation
- 100% Plug and Play, without the need for wire splicing, tapping or additional wire harnesses
- OEM-like integration
- Low heat output, unlike colored bulbs or HID kits

There's no need to complicate a mod that should be relatively simple on the end-user's side.

More to follow.

leletyM3 · Fri, Apr-17-2009, 05:47:46 AM

Wow it looks very nice!

**Porshapwr** · Fri, Apr-17-2009, 03:31:21 PM

Thanks for the info - they sound excellent. Would be one of my first mods when/if I get an E92.

NFDoms2k1 · Fri, Apr-17-2009, 04:22:44 PM

Definitely will have to upgrade my DRLs with these - I have an LED set but just can't get over the lack of brightness, esp. in the outer ring which bascially disappears in the sunlight.

AMPowerJ · Fri, Apr-17-2009, 06:46:35 PM

When will they be available for order?

ooowowizstev · Sat, Apr-18-2009, 09:03:49 PM

These look very nice and I'm really interested. I'm currently running MTec bulbs and they disappear in the sun..Hope these will be released soon.

**tom @ eas** · Mon, Apr-20-2009, 05:23:30 PM

Today has arrived and kits are shipping, official release here: http://www.m3forum.net/m3forum/showthread.php?p=3890203

Doru in Romania · Mon, Apr-20-2009, 05:32:16 PM

pls post price.

AMPowerJ · Tue, Apr-21-2009, 10:30:11 PM

$299 ...

**tom @ eas** · Mon, Apr-27-2009, 09:19:49 PM

Studio shots - you can really see the time and effort going into CNC machining (5-axis) before the final product is completed.

Fri, Apr-17-2009, 05:25:42 AM	#11
tom @ eas M3Forum Sponsor Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 10,366 Reputation: 0	Sorry for the lack of updates, I'm currently in Taipei at the moment at AMPA with some business associates and will be returning shortly. First moment of discussion - daytime pictures. The LEDs being used are an SMT LED 5500K equivalent which give off a bright white light, unfortunately - it can be a bit hard to catch in photos. What we do not want to do is digitally enhance the photos (ie: photoshop) since this is not a true indicator of what they look like in person. Those in the SoCal area are more than welcome to stop by and see the vehicles in person. There have been a LOT of contenders in the Angel Eyes for coming up with a possible solution - most of them were failures. And don't even get me going on GP Thunders. There's a reason why we haven't offered anything in the past - simply because there was better coming in the near future, which is about here. Here's a diagram of the fiber path used in the e92 setup: The inner lamp will always get a direct shot from the bulb (H8). However, the outer projector will always be weaker due to the travel path needed in the fiber lines to illuminate the ring. This is why the outer rings are always dimmer than the inner. All the latest and greatest bulbs on the market will not correct this design. This HID kits are interesting as they use a very high color temperature, reducing the lumen output in order to illuminate the rings. Unfortunately - this gives a very blue color, which is not what we're looking for. Also - HIDs run at very high temperatures. These headlamps are by no means cheap to replace. Voltage Requirements: E9x M3 headlights are very sensitive to voltage and can give off errors if the proper resistance is not detected as what the system would expect from a H8 bulb - a reason to why "resistor packs" are required on the HID setups. LED systems use a driver pack, which will be integrated into the system to keep these errors from appearing. System uses very little power and is double the output (10W) than most kits with no flickering experienced from the vehicle's bulbcheck system Durability Testing: We have had 4 vehicles in testing since late December with no errors produced. One car you haven't seen would be our Project1 from the 1addicts forums: We're about as excited as you are. Things to expect: - 5500-6000K temperature for a bright, white light. - Easy 10-minute installation - 100% Plug and Play, without the need for wire splicing, tapping or additional wire harnesses - OEM-like integration - Low heat output, unlike colored bulbs or HID kits There's no need to complicate a mod that should be relatively simple on the end-user's side. More to follow. __________________ Tom G. \| european auto source (eas) email: tom@europeanautosource.com web: www.europeanautosource.com tel 866.669.0705 \| ca: 714.369.8524 x22 \| fax: 714.908.1796 Blog \| Facebook \| YouTube \| Flickr \| Twitter

Fri, Apr-17-2009, 05:47:46 AM	#12
leletyM3 640rwhp Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 12,974 Reputation: 0 Location: Bay Area	Wow it looks very nice! __________________ 05 BMW ///M3 SMG - Jet Black/Gray HPF Stg2 Turbo Kit 640rwhp, HPF Stg2 Feramic Clutch, HPF Carbon Fiber Stg3-4 Intake,HPF Catch Can, HPF Carbon Fiber Air Duct, HPF Methanol Switch, HPF Under Brace, HPF Subframe Kit, Custom AEM UEGO and AEM Boost Gauge in the OEM Mirror, Okada Plasma Coils, Eisenmann Race 83x4, Bilstein PSS9, Volk TE37 Time Attack, Toyo 275/30/19 & 245/35/19, Brembo BBK 380mm 6 pots & 345mm, Hardwired V1, 6K HID bulbs, 6K HID Fog Lights, 6K Umnitza Orion V2, Depo Smoked Corners, Solaris Bulbs, Full LEDs interiors,Umnitza LED licence plate lights, 30% Tint All Around, V-CSL V2Front Bumper with Race Lip, OEM CSL Bootlid, V-CSL Diffuser, ///M3 Monochrome, Flat Black Kidneys & Side Grills, Carbon Fiber BMW Emblems, Powerflex RTABs, Dension Ipod ICE>Link Plus, AudioControl unit, Phoenix Gold 600Ti, JL Audio 12W6v2

Fri, Apr-17-2009, 04:22:44 PM	#14
NFDoms2k1 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 215 Reputation: 0 Location: New York	Definitely will have to upgrade my DRLs with these - I have an LED set but just can't get over the lack of brightness, esp. in the outer ring which bascially disappears in the sunlight. __________________ '09 E93 M3, AW, M-DCT, Fully Loaded RPi Full GT Race; RPi/Powerchip Flash; H&R Springs; MS Spacers; Scoops; MS Air Filter; Painted Reflectors; Weisslicht Angel Eyes; VRS Type II Diffuser; ACS Pedals; CF Side Mirrors, Hood Vents, Side Gills and Kidney Grill; Vorsteiner Front Lip DD: '03 A6 2.7T [GONE ] Support our Nation's Wounded Heroes: http://www.woundedwarriorproject.org

Fri, Apr-17-2009, 06:46:35 PM	#15
AMPowerJ One mod leads to another ... Join Date: Sep 2002 Age: 39 Posts: 2,070 Reputation: 0 Location: Columbia, SC	When will they be available for order? __________________ 2009 E90 M3 - LeMans Blue - Speed Cloth - 6 speed ESS Tune - BMW Performance Exhaust - StopTech Trophy BBK - KW Clubsport Suspension - TE37SL Wheels

Sat, Apr-18-2009, 09:03:49 PM	#16
ooowowizstev Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 423 Reputation: 0 Location: Los Angeles, Irvine	These look very nice and I'm really interested. I'm currently running MTec bulbs and they disappear in the sun..Hope these will be released soon. __________________ 08 E92 ///M3 - AW/BLK/CF Trim, M-DCT, 19's, CF Roof H&R, VMR, Tecnocraft, Vorsteiner, Eisenmann More to come...

Fri, Apr-17-2009, 03:31:21 PM	#13
Porshapwr Hello. Is it me your looking for? Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 47,933 Blog Entries: 1 In the garage: '99 BMW M3 Reputation: 107 Location: Your mind	Thanks for the info - they sound excellent. Would be one of my first mods when/if I get an E92.

Mon, Apr-20-2009, 05:23:30 PM	#17
tom @ eas M3Forum Sponsor Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 10,366 Reputation: 0	Today has arrived and kits are shipping, official release here: http://www.m3forum.net/m3forum/showthread.php?p=3890203 __________________ Tom G. \| european auto source (eas) email: tom@europeanautosource.com web: www.europeanautosource.com tel 866.669.0705 \| ca: 714.369.8524 x22 \| fax: 714.908.1796 Blog \| Facebook \| YouTube \| Flickr \| Twitter

Mon, Apr-20-2009, 05:32:16 PM	#18
Doru in Romania Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 178 Reputation: 0 Location: Bucharest	pls post price. __________________ 2009 X6 2009 118 2008 M3 - sold the damn thing 2008 K1200GT (bike) Last edited by Doru in Romania; Mon, Apr-20-2009 at 05:37:56 PM.

Tue, Apr-21-2009, 10:30:11 PM	#19
AMPowerJ One mod leads to another ... Join Date: Sep 2002 Age: 39 Posts: 2,070 Reputation: 0 Location: Columbia, SC	$299 ... __________________ 2009 E90 M3 - LeMans Blue - Speed Cloth - 6 speed ESS Tune - BMW Performance Exhaust - StopTech Trophy BBK - KW Clubsport Suspension - TE37SL Wheels

Mon, Apr-27-2009, 09:19:49 PM	#20
tom @ eas M3Forum Sponsor Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 10,366 Reputation: 0	Studio shots - you can really see the time and effort going into CNC machining (5-axis) before the final product is completed. __________________ Tom G. \| european auto source (eas) email: tom@europeanautosource.com web: www.europeanautosource.com tel 866.669.0705 \| ca: 714.369.8524 x22 \| fax: 714.908.1796 Blog \| Facebook \| YouTube \| Flickr \| Twitter

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