This forum just saved me $1,675

414 bhp · Mon, Apr-20-2009, 06:58:58 PM

Just wanted to let you guys know that this forum literally saved me $1,675.
I had put in an order at the end of March for a 2009 M3 Sedan, and negotiated the edmunds.com TMV as the final sales price. (This was - you guessed it - $1,675 above invoice.)
However, reading a few of the posts here it seemed like a lot of guys were getting close to, or at invoice sales prices. So I did a little extra sleuthing around and found that indeed, there was a dealer in the area willing to sell at invoice.
Using this information I went back to the dealer and got him to lower the sales price on the vehicle (which is three weeks into the build order) to invoice or I said I would walk away from the deal. He was pissed, but agreed to it so as "not to be stuck with a $71,000 car".
What I can't believe however was that he had the audacity to tell me that what I was doing wasn't fair or moral. I replied by saying that, "neither is charging people above MSRP when times are good. I'm going to sleep very well tonight."
Ultimately though I will be taking delivery of the car in about 4 weeks - and I'm absolutely pumped that this web site has helped.

daytonaviolet · Mon, Apr-20-2009, 07:00:41 PM

awesome

but you should not being paying MSRP anyways.. if anything a few K below MSRP

foolio · Mon, Apr-20-2009, 07:01:50 PM

Good for you!

414 bhp · Mon, Apr-20-2009, 07:03:57 PM

The edmunds.com TMV was already 3K under MSRP (which was what made me think it was an okay deal in the first place.)

rave426 · Mon, Apr-20-2009, 07:06:28 PM

Not the nicest way to go about the situation, but im glad you got your deal. Try not to burn bridges though, because you kinda just blackmailed the dealer into a cheaper price. Doing it from the beginning will be a much better way to go about the situation

But then again stealerships deserve some of their own medicine every so often

414 bhp · Mon, Apr-20-2009, 07:17:09 PM

Yep. I get your point rave426. I feel a tinge of guilt. But then again, it may just be gas.

caden · Mon, Apr-20-2009, 08:10:25 PM

bravo! you're exercising your capitalistic rights; the system is built on free market where businesses compete with each other to provide the best product for the lowest price. your salesman has probably met his end of the month quota and received bonuses from both the manufacture and dealer on the '09s. congrats

patty · Mon, Apr-20-2009, 08:13:38 PM

$5 says you are back here posting about lousy service from the same dealership you just hosed out of $1,675 after you shook on a deal.

Just a guess.

bigworm873 · Mon, Apr-20-2009, 09:13:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by patty

$5 says you are back here posting about lousy service from the same dealership you just hosed out of $1,675 after you shook on a deal.

Just a guess.

+1 on that

beebo100 · Mon, Apr-20-2009, 09:18:55 PM

just a guess, but msrp has about $5k - $6k profit in it. So he's complaining about not getting an extra 1.6k. I would sleep very well if i were you. and service it at another dealership, if the salesman is going to take it to that level.

Mon, Apr-20-2009, 06:58:58 PM	#1
414 bhp Registered User Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 25 Reputation: 0 Location: Boston	This forum just saved me $1,675 Just wanted to let you guys know that this forum literally saved me $1,675. I had put in an order at the end of March for a 2009 M3 Sedan, and negotiated the edmunds.com TMV as the final sales price. (This was - you guessed it - $1,675 above invoice.) However, reading a few of the posts here it seemed like a lot of guys were getting close to, or at invoice sales prices. So I did a little extra sleuthing around and found that indeed, there was a dealer in the area willing to sell at invoice. Using this information I went back to the dealer and got him to lower the sales price on the vehicle (which is three weeks into the build order) to invoice or I said I would walk away from the deal. He was pissed, but agreed to it so as "not to be stuck with a $71,000 car". What I can't believe however was that he had the audacity to tell me that what I was doing wasn't fair or moral. I replied by saying that, "neither is charging people above MSRP when times are good. I'm going to sleep very well tonight." Ultimately though I will be taking delivery of the car in about 4 weeks - and I'm absolutely pumped that this web site has helped. __________________ 2009 BMW ///M3 Sedan Jerez Black/Fox Red/Carbon Leather M-DCT, ZTP, ZPP, ZCW, PDC 752, 655, 417, 6FL

Mon, Apr-20-2009, 07:00:41 PM	#2
daytonaviolet OEM CSL Whoore Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 21,020 Blog Entries: 1 Reputation: 0 Location: Bay Area, California	awesome but you should not being paying MSRP anyways.. if anything a few K below MSRP __________________ Click my sig and view my pics! Tischer aka GetBmwParts VCSL - Bumper DIY VCSL - Bootlid DIY FS: Rear black door panels FS: Oem trunk

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Mon, Apr-20-2009, 07:03:57 PM	#4
414 bhp Registered User Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 25 Reputation: 0 Location: Boston	The edmunds.com TMV was already 3K under MSRP (which was what made me think it was an okay deal in the first place.) __________________ 2009 BMW ///M3 Sedan Jerez Black/Fox Red/Carbon Leather M-DCT, ZTP, ZPP, ZCW, PDC 752, 655, 417, 6FL

Mon, Apr-20-2009, 07:17:09 PM	#6
414 bhp Registered User Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 25 Reputation: 0 Location: Boston	Yep. I get your point rave426. I feel a tinge of guilt. But then again, it may just be gas. __________________ 2009 BMW ///M3 Sedan Jerez Black/Fox Red/Carbon Leather M-DCT, ZTP, ZPP, ZCW, PDC 752, 655, 417, 6FL

Mon, Apr-20-2009, 07:06:28 PM	#5
rave426 Kinda almost had a 3sum Join Date: Jul 2006 Age: 28 Posts: 22,431 Reputation: 0 Location: Fast + Furious=Gigantic	Not the nicest way to go about the situation, but im glad you got your deal. Try not to burn bridges though, because you kinda just blackmailed the dealer into a cheaper price. Doing it from the beginning will be a much better way to go about the situation But then again stealerships deserve some of their own medicine every so often

Mon, Apr-20-2009, 08:10:25 PM	#7
caden Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 412 Reputation: 0	bravo! you're exercising your capitalistic rights; the system is built on free market where businesses compete with each other to provide the best product for the lowest price. your salesman has probably met his end of the month quota and received bonuses from both the manufacture and dealer on the '09s. congrats __________________ 2004 325ci black/black-sold 2005 ///M3 'vert. silver/gray- my Valium 2005 X5 3.0i black/beige aka work horse-sold 2008 535i twin turbo white/beige-"never more HPFPs"-sold 2011 X5 5.0i black/black & 20s + all the goods except the M package

Mon, Apr-20-2009, 08:13:38 PM	#8
patty Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 2,644 Reputation: 0	$5 says you are back here posting about lousy service from the same dealership you just hosed out of $1,675 after you shook on a deal. Just a guess. __________________

Mon, Apr-20-2009, 09:18:55 PM	#10
beebo100 2008 F1 game champion Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,948 Reputation: 0	just a guess, but msrp has about $5k - $6k profit in it. So he's complaining about not getting an extra 1.6k. I would sleep very well if i were you. and service it at another dealership, if the salesman is going to take it to that level.

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