How to practice high-speed oversteer?

Cheeze · Wed, Apr-22-2009, 04:37:43 PM

Is there a special track or skidpad around the north east (or anywhere) that would allow for practicing high-speed oversteer - i.e. HUGE runoff areas on high-speed turns? I feel this is the one area where I have very little experience, and it's obviously not something I would want to try to practice at a normal track. I remember seeing a special on TV one time about such a track in Europe somewhere, it had massive paved runoff on every single turn with a special pavement that was more gritty to slow you down if you went off.

Maybe a drifting event would be helpful as well? Thoughts? What are the differences between a high-speed and low-speed oversteer situation, if any? I can hold myself sideways around a skidpad indefinitely, but I've never really had to manage big oversteer over maybe 30-40mph...

Wile.E.Coyote · Wed, Apr-22-2009, 05:56:12 PM

Maybe try to find an expansive parking lot without poles, go as fast as u can, and put yourself sideways and see what happens.

The Dough · Wed, Apr-22-2009, 06:18:30 PM

Good point Phil. I can't think of any place setup as you described. I too would love to find a place to practice this in a safe controlled way so as to be better prepared if and when this occurs to me on a track. How big is your driveway?

Cheeze · Wed, Apr-22-2009, 06:34:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Dough

How big is your driveway?

I don't have one...

cntrvrsy · Wed, Apr-22-2009, 07:10:16 PM

Any abandoned air fields in your area?

Cheeze · Wed, Apr-22-2009, 07:40:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cntrvrsy

Any abandoned air fields in your area?

Good idea, I'll have to look into that. I don't think they would be wide enough but if they had two parallel runways with joining pavement you could do some big drifts Top Gear style. Probably some problems with renting/gaining access to them though, still interested in 'sponsored' events.

cntrvrsy · Wed, Apr-22-2009, 07:57:55 PM

E-Town Raceway has drift events. I don't know what their schedule is this year or if you wanna drive over to Jersey though.

Fatz · Wed, Apr-22-2009, 08:00:33 PM

Remember the video of Ken Block practicing Gymkhana? It looked like that was an abandoned airfield and he seemed to have plenty of space for that first sweeper which looked pretty fast. That being said, it also looked like you could be eating some weeds if you ran off the tarmac.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rs-jAImScms

Sammyzuko · Wed, Apr-22-2009, 08:24:30 PM

I've also always wondered how to practice this. I've been considering some drift events because it's the closest thing I can think of.

maranelloman · Wed, Apr-22-2009, 11:29:43 PM

Meadowlands parking lot just after a big snow?

Wed, Apr-22-2009, 04:37:43 PM	#1
Cheeze Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 13,124 Reputation: 0 Location: In my mind	How to practice high-speed oversteer? Is there a special track or skidpad around the north east (or anywhere) that would allow for practicing high-speed oversteer - i.e. HUGE runoff areas on high-speed turns? I feel this is the one area where I have very little experience, and it's obviously not something I would want to try to practice at a normal track. I remember seeing a special on TV one time about such a track in Europe somewhere, it had massive paved runoff on every single turn with a special pavement that was more gritty to slow you down if you went off. Maybe a drifting event would be helpful as well? Thoughts? What are the differences between a high-speed and low-speed oversteer situation, if any? I can hold myself sideways around a skidpad indefinitely, but I've never really had to manage big oversteer over maybe 30-40mph...

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Wile.E.Coyote Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 1,904 In the garage: '04 BMW M3 Reputation: 0 Location: First 48 HQ	Maybe try to find an expansive parking lot without poles, go as fast as u can, and put yourself sideways and see what happens. __________________ '04 M3 6MT Mods: Volk TC37s, JVT headers, Borla Mids, Tune, CSL rear diffuser TCK D/A 550F/600R, Brakes, Motul, Schroth, RE SSK, Bell M3, Painters tape.

Wed, Apr-22-2009, 06:18:30 PM	#3
The Dough Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 2,966 Reputation: 0 Location: Manhattan	Good point Phil. I can't think of any place setup as you described. I too would love to find a place to practice this in a safe controlled way so as to be better prepared if and when this occurs to me on a track. How big is your driveway? __________________ SOH

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cntrvrsy Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 4,922 Reputation: 0 Location: NY	Any abandoned air fields in your area? __________________ sig engineered by Fcukupayme

Wed, Apr-22-2009, 07:57:55 PM	#7
cntrvrsy Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 4,922 Reputation: 0 Location: NY	E-Town Raceway has drift events. I don't know what their schedule is this year or if you wanna drive over to Jersey though. __________________ sig engineered by Fcukupayme

Wed, Apr-22-2009, 08:00:33 PM	#8
Fatz Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Age: 46 Posts: 154 Reputation: 0 Location: Ayer, MA	Remember the video of Ken Block practicing Gymkhana? It looked like that was an abandoned airfield and he seemed to have plenty of space for that first sweeper which looked pretty fast. That being said, it also looked like you could be eating some weeds if you ran off the tarmac. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rs-jAImScms

Wed, Apr-22-2009, 08:24:30 PM	#9
Sammyzuko Registered User & Abuser Join Date: Oct 2003 Age: 34 Posts: 2,506 Reputation: 0 Location: Arlington, VA	I've also always wondered how to practice this. I've been considering some drift events because it's the closest thing I can think of. __________________

Wed, Apr-22-2009, 11:29:43 PM	#10
maranelloman Very Large Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 1,678 Reputation: 0 Location: Austin, Texas, USA	Meadowlands parking lot just after a big snow? __________________ . .Professional Racing & Driving Coach

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