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E46 M3 (2001-2006) Engine: S54 - Max Hp: 333 hp at 7,900 rpm / 262 lb/ft at 4,900 rpm
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Old Sun, Aug-23-2009, 01:21:15 AM   #1
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Default Manual Trans Oil; MTF-LT3 supersede MTF-LT2?

Did a search but unable to find definitive answer. Does MTF-LT3 (P/N # 83 22 7 533 818) supersede MTF-LT2 (P/N # 83 22 0 309 031) manual transmission oil? Few threads mentioned that ONLY MTF-LT2 is correct for E46 M3, not MTF-3. I was told by BMW service manager that that is not true and LT3 supersede LT2. What’s more, if you look at E92 M3 transmission label, it has MTF-LT2 on there, not MTF-LT3.
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On Mad Russian's site, he does a tranny fluid change on his E46 M3. The yellow sticker on the Getrag Type D clearly says MTF-LT-1. Shockingly, the sticker also says not to change the fluid! LMAO

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On Mad Russian's site, he does a tranny fluid change on his E46 M3. The yellow sticker on the Getrag Type D clearly says MTF-LT-1. Shockingly, the sticker also says not to change the fluid! LMAO

My transmission says MTF LT-2. Most dealers will tell you that LT-3 has superseded LT-2.
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Did a search but unable to find definitive answer. Does MTF-LT3 (P/N # 83 22 7 533 818) supersede MTF-LT2 (P/N # 83 22 0 309 031) manual transmission oil? Few threads mentioned that ONLY MTF-LT2 is correct for E46 M3, not MTF-3. I was told by BMW service manager that that is not true and LT3 supersede LT2. What’s more, if you look at E92 M3 transmission label, it has MTF-LT2 on there, not MTF-LT3.
Somewhere in the M3Forum, I came across information that the LT3 fluid is specific to the E9x, and other next-generation cars.

LT2 superceded LT1, and it's what I'm using in my car.
A dealer tried to sell me LT3, but I insisted on LT2. They had it, and sold me LT2.

Do some searches before you make a decision. I'll see if I can find the post.

Edit: Found one that has some info: http://www.m3forum.net/m3forum/showt...&highlight=LT3
Like Don writes below, use MTF-LT2.
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Same thing happened to me, now i have 3L of MTF-LT3 im not going to put in my car .

However, i guess its up to you to use it or not. I know someone who has, and he said its taken the notchiness out of his tranny when its cold, but you never know.
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My transmission says MTF LT-2. Most dealers will tell you that LT-3 has superseded LT-2.
Those dealers are wrong. Nothing new about dealers being wrong - that's why the forums are here. These transmissions use LT-2.
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Sorry to thread jack, but seeing that BMW sticker stating "Life Time Oil" is complete B.S. Everyone knows gear oil breaks down due to heat and the gear to gear shear affect on the oil. Lifetime oil - Baaaahhhhh!
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Those dealers are wrong. Nothing new about dealers being wrong - that's why the forums are here. These transmissions use LT-2.
Yup, which is why I have 5 L of LT-2 sitting in my garage.

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Sorry to thread jack, but seeing that BMW sticker stating "Life Time Oil" is complete B.S. Everyone knows gear oil breaks down due to heat and the gear to gear shear affect on the oil. Lifetime oil - Baaaahhhhh!
Not to mention the debris that accumulates in the oil over time.
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+1 to all of the above. LT-3 is for the E9x, LT2 superceded LT1. LT2 is the correct tranny fluid.
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I called three different BMW dealers and they all said the same thing. LT3 supersede LT2. From Bavauto, if you have yellow label or blue label on your transmission, you can use LT3. MTF-LT2 label is yellow. BMW dealers and BMW related parts places also states that LT3 supersede LT2. But from several forum threads, some say it is not and only use LT2. I really like to know for certain. If newer and improved fluid is available, why not use that instead???
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