Michael's - E92 M3 Project Car - Photo Journal

blkcollarworker · Thu, Dec-17-2009, 04:20:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CarFanatic56

^ have you seen the CF door panels AmuseEriccson makes for the E92?

Yes, but this is way out of the budget. I'm sure it could be replicated. Stay tuned.

0-60Motorsports · Wed, Jan-06-2010, 06:01:17 AM

Excellent project and choice of parts! Waiting to see pics.

roobe16 · Fri, Jan-08-2010, 01:18:05 AM

Awesome...I can't wait to see how this turns out. Unique like the CSL, but even more rare.

blkcollarworker · Sat, Jan-09-2010, 06:25:22 AM

For chassis improvements, I ended up going with matched shocks, springs and sways setup: specifically the RD Sport M3 Chassis Kit. (RD/Bilstein Shocks + RD Springs + RD Front and Rear Adjustable Hollow Anti Sway Bar 30.2/25.5mm). Couple of reasons why I decided on this route.

Weight. I did not want the added complexity and weight associated with coil over setups. I think a cohesively designed single setup system is more in line with the design philosophy for production streetcar like the CSL or GT3
Designed and tested by Racing Dynamics and Bilstein on the Ring on an M3 for the M3
OEM Fitment from a top tier OEM Manufacturer
CSL had similar upgrades. New aggressive shocks, springs and sways
Reasonability priced
Sporty ride height and stance
Test drove an RD Sport Chassis Kit equipped car and it felt perfect. It felt stiffer without sacrificing ride quality too much. Felt much more planted and firm across variety of surfaces. Big improvement in sporty feel. Feels more “hunkered” down. Though, if you love comfort mode, this kit is not for you. Stick with just springs.

Sways

Springs

Shocks

Installing

blkcollarworker · Sat, Jan-09-2010, 06:33:36 AM

Here's where I'm thinking the next areas of focus will be in order.

1. Transmission: The car and human user interface components. Couple of things I see in the current M3 that I don't think we'd see in the CSL.

- Sloppy, rubbery and long 6MT gear lever. I also think the lever is placed to far forward on the car. After research various solutions, I think the Rogue shifter best fits the bill. It neutralizes the driving position. It’s not too short of a throw (Something BMW engineers would definitely consider). It aims at solving both the precision problem with the current lever and the ergonomics. Other shifters seem to focus just on the precision.

- The original CSL being an SMG car had built in shift lights in the dashboard to help with shifting and an Alcantara steering wheel to improve grip. This has been solved with the inclusion of the BMW Performance Steering Wheel. This adds a couple of things including shift lights, lap-timer, engine temp and g-force monitoring. Additionally, the position of the LCD screen, with its bright orange display acts as a visual centering marker, just like in many Ferrari’s CS version cars and Porsche GT/RS level cars. I think with this wheel readily available at the factory, this would be the steering wheel used in the fictional BMW CSL.

- Couple of things about the foot interface components. The gas, brake pedals, and clutch are both visually cheap and can use some additional grip. The clutch is too light and long. The brake pedal sit to high compared to the gas pedal for heel-toe action. I don’t think any of this would fly in for a CSL variant. I think I’ve found a potential solution to all this though.

2. Interior Design and Optimizations

- TBD

3. Engine and Performance

- TBD

0-60Motorsports · Sat, Jan-09-2010, 06:37:00 AM

lookin good bro!

leletyM3 · Sat, Jan-09-2010, 07:20:38 AM

Can't wait to see those OEM CSL seats on it and the new RAC!!!

Studntloan · Mon, Jan-11-2010, 01:36:37 PM

Any progress on getting the seats to work and can't wait to see some door panels

blkcollarworker · Sat, Jan-16-2010, 06:17:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Studntloan

Any progress on getting the seats to work and can't wait to see some door panels

No progress yet. Stupid head restraint system is now getting in the way. This applies to all cars 09+. This is going to be a lot harder then it looks.

blkcollarworker · Sat, Jan-16-2010, 06:18:08 AM

Couple of quick updates.

Improvements in the air induction department - Technocraft charge pipe and accompanying BMC air filter. Thanks to Eric@Pyspeed for the great service. Overall, very impressed with the quality of the unit. Definitely feels lighter then the stock unit. Unfortunately, I was not able to weigh it.

Weight of the Rogue Octane Shifter if anyone is interested.

Finally installed the BMW Performance Grills. Pricey, but I think they look much better then the matte black ones. Matches the rest of the trim so much better.

I feel like the mid-range throttle mapping on the current stock map can use some work. Something more aggressive. After talking to a couple of users who now swear by it, I decide to jump on the Sprint Booster band wagon. I'll report back after installation soon.

That's it for now.

Wed, Jan-06-2010, 06:01:17 AM	#22
0-60Motorsports Established 1998.... Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 10,009 In the garage: '08 LEXUS IS F '08 VOLKSWAGEN GOLF '04 BMW M3 Reputation: 0 Location: Al Manama, Bahrain	Excellent project and choice of parts! Waiting to see pics. __________________ EURO 04 M3 Current Mods: GC DA's, Eibach Sways, PF RTABs, RE RCAs, INTRAVEE II + Alpine KCA-420i, Black Roundels, ///MFEST Badges, Depo Corners, M5 SMG Knob, Screen protector for OEM 16:9 display, VCSL: Bumper + Race Lip, CF Trunk, CF Diffusor, DIETZ TV in Motion, AP Headers, RT Cats, SS Res X-pipe, SS Race, Z8 Starter Button, Lamin-X, GM SMG Paddles, OEM CSL Steering, OEM CSL interior, OEM CSL Intake, EVOLVE Alpha-N Tune, BBS CH's, FX-R Projectors + 3k D2S, ST40's, DINAN Rear Strut Brace, BW Oil Cooler, 3.91 gears Soon To come.....OEM CSL Roof, Inner Projectors ........

Fri, Jan-08-2010, 01:18:05 AM	#23
roobe16 Certified Naysayer Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 4,653 Reputation: 0 Location: ☻ £ Town ☻	Awesome...I can't wait to see how this turns out. Unique like the CSL, but even more rare. __________________

Sat, Jan-09-2010, 06:25:22 AM	#24
blkcollarworker Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Age: 32 Posts: 1,613 Reputation: 0 Location: Seattle, WA	For chassis improvements, I ended up going with matched shocks, springs and sways setup: specifically the RD Sport M3 Chassis Kit. (RD/Bilstein Shocks + RD Springs + RD Front and Rear Adjustable Hollow Anti Sway Bar 30.2/25.5mm). Couple of reasons why I decided on this route. Weight. I did not want the added complexity and weight associated with coil over setups. I think a cohesively designed single setup system is more in line with the design philosophy for production streetcar like the CSL or GT3 Designed and tested by Racing Dynamics and Bilstein on the Ring on an M3 for the M3 OEM Fitment from a top tier OEM Manufacturer CSL had similar upgrades. New aggressive shocks, springs and sways Reasonability priced Sporty ride height and stance Test drove an RD Sport Chassis Kit equipped car and it felt perfect. It felt stiffer without sacrificing ride quality too much. Felt much more planted and firm across variety of surfaces. Big improvement in sporty feel. Feels more “hunkered” down. Though, if you love comfort mode, this kit is not for you. Stick with just springs. Sways Springs Shocks Installing __________________

Sat, Jan-09-2010, 06:33:36 AM	#25
blkcollarworker Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Age: 32 Posts: 1,613 Reputation: 0 Location: Seattle, WA	What's next Here's where I'm thinking the next areas of focus will be in order. 1. Transmission: The car and human user interface components. Couple of things I see in the current M3 that I don't think we'd see in the CSL. - Sloppy, rubbery and long 6MT gear lever. I also think the lever is placed to far forward on the car. After research various solutions, I think the Rogue shifter best fits the bill. It neutralizes the driving position. It’s not too short of a throw (Something BMW engineers would definitely consider). It aims at solving both the precision problem with the current lever and the ergonomics. Other shifters seem to focus just on the precision. - The original CSL being an SMG car had built in shift lights in the dashboard to help with shifting and an Alcantara steering wheel to improve grip. This has been solved with the inclusion of the BMW Performance Steering Wheel. This adds a couple of things including shift lights, lap-timer, engine temp and g-force monitoring. Additionally, the position of the LCD screen, with its bright orange display acts as a visual centering marker, just like in many Ferrari’s CS version cars and Porsche GT/RS level cars. I think with this wheel readily available at the factory, this would be the steering wheel used in the fictional BMW CSL. - Couple of things about the foot interface components. The gas, brake pedals, and clutch are both visually cheap and can use some additional grip. The clutch is too light and long. The brake pedal sit to high compared to the gas pedal for heel-toe action. I don’t think any of this would fly in for a CSL variant. I think I’ve found a potential solution to all this though. 2. Interior Design and Optimizations - TBD 3. Engine and Performance - TBD __________________

Sat, Jan-09-2010, 06:37:00 AM	#26
0-60Motorsports Established 1998.... Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 10,009 In the garage: '08 LEXUS IS F '08 VOLKSWAGEN GOLF '04 BMW M3 Reputation: 0 Location: Al Manama, Bahrain	lookin good bro! __________________ EURO 04 M3 Current Mods: GC DA's, Eibach Sways, PF RTABs, RE RCAs, INTRAVEE II + Alpine KCA-420i, Black Roundels, ///MFEST Badges, Depo Corners, M5 SMG Knob, Screen protector for OEM 16:9 display, VCSL: Bumper + Race Lip, CF Trunk, CF Diffusor, DIETZ TV in Motion, AP Headers, RT Cats, SS Res X-pipe, SS Race, Z8 Starter Button, Lamin-X, GM SMG Paddles, OEM CSL Steering, OEM CSL interior, OEM CSL Intake, EVOLVE Alpha-N Tune, BBS CH's, FX-R Projectors + 3k D2S, ST40's, DINAN Rear Strut Brace, BW Oil Cooler, 3.91 gears Soon To come.....OEM CSL Roof, Inner Projectors ........

Sat, Jan-09-2010, 07:20:38 AM	#27
leletyM3 640rwhp Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 12,972 Reputation: 0 Location: Bay Area	Can't wait to see those OEM CSL seats on it and the new RAC!!! __________________ 05 BMW ///M3 SMG - Jet Black/Gray HPF Stg2 Turbo Kit 640rwhp, HPF Stg2 Feramic Clutch, HPF Carbon Fiber Stg3-4 Intake,HPF Catch Can, HPF Carbon Fiber Air Duct, HPF Methanol Switch, HPF Under Brace, HPF Subframe Kit, Custom AEM UEGO and AEM Boost Gauge in the OEM Mirror, Okada Plasma Coils, Eisenmann Race 83x4, Bilstein PSS9, Volk TE37 Time Attack, Toyo 275/30/19 & 245/35/19, Brembo BBK 380mm 6 pots & 345mm, Hardwired V1, 6K HID bulbs, 6K HID Fog Lights, 6K Umnitza Orion V2, Depo Smoked Corners, Solaris Bulbs, Full LEDs interiors,Umnitza LED licence plate lights, 30% Tint All Around, V-CSL V2Front Bumper with Race Lip, OEM CSL Bootlid, V-CSL Diffuser, ///M3 Monochrome, Flat Black Kidneys & Side Grills, Carbon Fiber BMW Emblems, Powerflex RTABs, Dension Ipod ICE>Link Plus, AudioControl unit, Phoenix Gold 600Ti, JL Audio 12W6v2

Mon, Jan-11-2010, 01:36:37 PM	#28
Studntloan Registered User Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 391 Reputation: 0	Any progress on getting the seats to work and can't wait to see some door panels

Sat, Jan-16-2010, 06:18:08 AM	#30
blkcollarworker Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Age: 32 Posts: 1,613 Reputation: 0 Location: Seattle, WA	Couple of updates. Couple of quick updates. Improvements in the air induction department - Technocraft charge pipe and accompanying BMC air filter. Thanks to Eric@Pyspeed for the great service. Overall, very impressed with the quality of the unit. Definitely feels lighter then the stock unit. Unfortunately, I was not able to weigh it. Weight of the Rogue Octane Shifter if anyone is interested. Finally installed the BMW Performance Grills. Pricey, but I think they look much better then the matte black ones. Matches the rest of the trim so much better. I feel like the mid-range throttle mapping on the current stock map can use some work. Something more aggressive. After talking to a couple of users who now swear by it, I decide to jump on the Sprint Booster band wagon. I'll report back after installation soon. That's it for now. __________________

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