Dispute over NOS kit sale

iigigol0ii · Sat, Oct-31-2009, 07:47:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mdom

so you're saying he admitted guilt in a post? if so, I'd say go ahead and post all personal info you have.

As soon as I get my car back, I will. I even have his bank account numbers.

mdom · Sat, Oct-31-2009, 08:19:04 PM

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Originally Posted by iigigol0ii

As soon as I get my car back, I will. I even have his bank account numbers.

do you know his real name?

e46lsb · Sat, Oct-31-2009, 08:35:04 PM

You may have been screwed over, but, show the proof instead of going off with a temper tantrum.

And, showing the proof will give you more credibility verses just going off.

mdom · Sat, Oct-31-2009, 08:52:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by e46lsb

You may have been screwed over, but, show the proof instead of going off with a temper tantrum.

And, showing the proof will give you more credibility verses just going off.

yeah this. before you post ANY personal info up, make your case and show us the proof you were scammed.

**John_T** · Sat, Oct-31-2009, 10:20:47 PM

And name the accounts he is using on this site and whether this transaction took place over this site, validating the purpose of this thread.

///M3THOD · Sat, Oct-31-2009, 10:32:27 PM

I have often wondered what the actual recourse would be for someone just completely taking advantage of the system in the marketplace.

I have been ripped off by items in far worse condition than they were photographed.. with no consideration for refund by the seller, but I have never been outright scammed.

What exactly is stopping someone from selling a set of wheels, diff., some other thousand dollar item and just completely not delivering it?

I know you can pursue them through paypal, but paypal has denied several of my claims when I was disputing the condition of the item. When you buy something on the forums it's not like an ebay payment where the money isn't released until a tracking number has been added or a package has been received. As far as they know your just sending money to someone..

Any info is appreciated, I have been using various forums for about 7 years now and haven't encountered this yet, but I am curious.

OP.. post up your info, you'll get something out of it, if nothing more than the complete humiliation of the jacka$$ that scammed you.

mdom · Sat, Oct-31-2009, 10:52:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ///M3THOD

I have often wondered what the actual recourse would be for someone just completely taking advantage of the system in the marketplace.

I have been ripped off by items in far worse condition than they were photographed.. with no consideration for refund by the seller, but I have never been outright scammed.

What exactly is stopping someone from selling a set of wheels, diff., some other thousand dollar item and just completely not delivering it?

I know you can pursue them through paypal, but paypal has denied several of my claims when I was disputing the condition of the item. When you buy something on the forums it's not like an ebay payment where the money isn't released until a tracking number has been added or a package has been received. As far as they know your just sending money to someone..

Any info is appreciated, I have been using various forums for about 7 years now and haven't encountered this yet, but I am curious.

OP.. post up your info, you'll get something out of it, if nothing more than the complete humiliation of the jacka$$ that scammed you.

There certainly are ways of recourse. I'm a member of an online poker forum, where people are regularly scammed for a lot more than 500$.

If know some personal information about them, then you can gain a lot of leverage. Internet detectives can find out the rest of their info including real name, etc.

In one of the more mainstream cases where someone was scammed for ~30,000$, the guy who was scammed (admo) released personal info of the scammer, and people were doing things like contacting the scammer's mom and all his friends telling them he had scammed etc, also admo made a website with all of scammer's info saying what he had done etc. and made it first result of google (probably screwing scammer out of a ton of employment opportunities in the future). as well as putting pressure on him legally. scammer ended up paying it all back.

kiloil · Sat, Oct-31-2009, 11:09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by iigigol0ii

Never realized he actually replied about ripping me off. I still have e-mails about this guy saying that he would refund my money when he found a new buyer..

Do not buy anything from jtreo, he is a scum bag. He ripped me off for 500 dollars.

Said if someone else buys the nitrous kit i wanted, he would refund my money...... **** I AM PISSED I DID NOT SEE THE POST HE POSTED UNTIL NOW!

DO NOT BUY FROM THAT ****ING ****. HE IS A WASTE OF LIFE, I WISH HE LIVED IN PHILLY, I WOULD CURB STOMP THIS ****ING ****

Jtreo is good guy and have spoken with him alot in the past.

Please post a detailed chain of events, then we can determine what is going on.

**John_T** · Sat, Oct-31-2009, 11:26:29 PM

Please read our policy here: http://www.m3forum.net/m3forum/annou....php?f=51&a=56

We do what we can to help protect forum members, however members accept the responsibility of any transactions they enter into. The forum may be used to seek advice and remedy, however may not be used unjustly or abusively, nor will any advocation or threats of violence be tolerated.

MTrejo was banned from this site 11 months ago for unauthorized commercial activity, selling NOS kits. Quite frankly, it is difficult to find much sympathy for those who enter into transactions despite our warnings and precautions, especially those with unauthorized, underground commercial activities.

Please state calmly, clearly and completely what this transaction is all about and perhaps some remedy can be found, however if this thread goes off the deep end, the thread will disappear.

E-solo · Sun, Nov-01-2009, 12:07:20 AM

In my experience on this forum I have had nothing but great transactions. Maybe I have just been lucky, but there are legit guys on here. Sorry to hear this hapen to you OP, hopefully there will be some resolution.

Sat, Oct-31-2009, 08:35:04 PM	#13
e46lsb Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 824 Reputation: 0 Location: Bucks	You may have been screwed over, but, show the proof instead of going off with a temper tantrum. And, showing the proof will give you more credibility verses just going off. __________________ 2001 E46. Current: KW Coilovers, AS SSK, black gills, black grill with paint match surround, Pioneer Nav, boot, E brake with M3 stitching, key hole delete, LED Smoked Tail, smoked corners, all new leather installed, Alcantara Headliner, CSL rep bumper with intake hole delete, GTR Carbon Fiber Hood. RIP...

Sat, Oct-31-2009, 10:20:47 PM	#15
John_T Moderator Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 15,731 Reputation: 578 Location: Switzerland	And name the accounts he is using on this site and whether this transaction took place over this site, validating the purpose of this thread. __________________

Sat, Oct-31-2009, 10:32:27 PM	#16
///M3THOD Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 1,804 Reputation: 0 Location: ATL/Buckhead	I have often wondered what the actual recourse would be for someone just completely taking advantage of the system in the marketplace. I have been ripped off by items in far worse condition than they were photographed.. with no consideration for refund by the seller, but I have never been outright scammed. What exactly is stopping someone from selling a set of wheels, diff., some other thousand dollar item and just completely not delivering it? I know you can pursue them through paypal, but paypal has denied several of my claims when I was disputing the condition of the item. When you buy something on the forums it's not like an ebay payment where the money isn't released until a tracking number has been added or a package has been received. As far as they know your just sending money to someone.. Any info is appreciated, I have been using various forums for about 7 years now and haven't encountered this yet, but I am curious. OP.. post up your info, you'll get something out of it, if nothing more than the complete humiliation of the jacka$$ that scammed you. __________________ '04 TiAg ///M3 SMG vert \| JVT headers \|\| AP section 1 \|\| KSport \|\| BMW Motorsport 4.10 \|\| Depo Smoked Corners \|\| Custom ski pass Alpine Type R\| \| UUC RTAB's/FCAB's/tranny mounts \|\| Auto Technik matte grills \|\| Orion V2's \|\| Anthracite Powdercoated OEM ZCP's \|\| EAS monochrome badges \|

Sat, Oct-31-2009, 11:26:29 PM	#19
John_T Moderator Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 15,731 Reputation: 578 Location: Switzerland	Please read our policy here: http://www.m3forum.net/m3forum/annou....php?f=51&a=56 We do what we can to help protect forum members, however members accept the responsibility of any transactions they enter into. The forum may be used to seek advice and remedy, however may not be used unjustly or abusively, nor will any advocation or threats of violence be tolerated. MTrejo was banned from this site 11 months ago for unauthorized commercial activity, selling NOS kits. Quite frankly, it is difficult to find much sympathy for those who enter into transactions despite our warnings and precautions, especially those with unauthorized, underground commercial activities. Please state calmly, clearly and completely what this transaction is all about and perhaps some remedy can be found, however if this thread goes off the deep end, the thread will disappear. __________________

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Sun, Nov-01-2009, 12:07:20 AM	#20
E-solo Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 1,834 Reputation: 0	In my experience on this forum I have had nothing but great transactions. Maybe I have just been lucky, but there are legit guys on here. Sorry to hear this hapen to you OP, hopefully there will be some resolution.