Replacing/Upgrading Clutch... what else to do at the same time?

**Obioban** · Sat, Nov-28-2009, 01:43:42 AM

Agreed with everyone else-- don't put the UUC stuff in, it's garbage. Our track car came with a UUC clutch in it, it destroyed itself. My friend put their setup in his e39 M5 (and had UUC do the install, so the fault didn't lie there)-- the clutch would let go if he floored it in any gear. Broken in properly, and this was after it was fully engaged, not as he was shifting. GARBAGE!

Things I replaced when I did my clutch:
throw out bearing
pressure plate
slave cylinder
pilot bearing
rear main seal
guibo
tranny mounts
engine mounts.

At the time my car had ~100,000 miles on it and my goal was to secure the entire driveline for another 100,000 miles.

**Obioban** · Sat, Nov-28-2009, 01:46:55 AM

btw, nice dog

monochrom3 · Sat, Nov-28-2009, 02:53:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Obioban

btw, nice dog

Cool, thanks for the input. Now I'm reconsidering everything.

Love the dog... did you catch the vid of her getting ice out of the fridge? (in OT)

Fastdog911 · Sat, Nov-28-2009, 02:13:30 PM

I put a new driveshaft in as the cost to put that in vs the labor and parts for the guibo was about a even draw... I had it balanced before it was put in. The OEM driveshaft was way out of balance. It had the u joints etc already installed.

docwyte · Sat, Nov-28-2009, 05:07:33 PM

I plan on going with the JB racing lightweight flywheel and sachs sport clutch when my stock one dies. So far it's holding the VF stage 2 power just fine, has for 12,000 miles now including road course track driving.

ClutchKickChris · Sat, Nov-28-2009, 06:59:04 PM

I had a UUC clutch and flywheel setup in my old E36. One of the most expensive setups they offered. Complete absolute garbage. RUN AWAY from UUC

shirazi89 · Sat, Dec-18-2010, 11:32:07 AM

Had a Rouge Stage 1 Clutch Kit
[http://www.rogueengineering.com/rogue/LTWF/PCS.html]
installed about 2-3 years back at Autotalent.My clutch had been slippin slightly for the past week. I thought i needed to replace the fluids or something, so i went ahead and purchased the transmission/diff fluid kit from turner.Guess that wasn't that problem,the clutch crapped out(wont engage) on me yesterday so i had it towed home [Hated the idle chatter anywayz). Plannin to replace with oem sachs kit. Is anything else typically damaged when clutch fails or basically what the kit includes? Turner Suggests/Offers all these items on the clutch page is any of it generally required or it wouldnt be known till opened up and looked at???

Transmission Seals:

23127501580 - shift shaft seal
23121222769 - output seal
23127501328 - input seal
Additional Clutch Parts:

11627830668 - clutch pivot pin
11211720310 - pilot bearing
21207548052 - pressure plate bolts x 6

THANKS IN ADVANCE...

**Obioban** · Sat, Dec-18-2010, 12:15:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shirazi89

Had a Rouge Stage 1 Clutch Kit
[http://www.rogueengineering.com/rogue/LTWF/PCS.html]
installed about 2-3 years back at Autotalent.My clutch had been slippin slightly for the past week. I thought i needed to replace the fluids or something, so i went ahead and purchased the transmission/diff fluid kit from turner.Guess that wasn't that problem,the clutch crapped out(wont engage) on me yesterday so i had it towed home [Hated the idle chatter anywayz). Plannin to replace with oem sachs kit. Is anything else typically damaged when clutch fails or basically what the kit includes? Turner Suggests/Offers all these items on the clutch page is any of it generally required or it wouldnt be known till opened up and looked at???

Transmission Seals:

23127501580 - shift shaft seal
23121222769 - output seal
23127501328 - input seal
Additional Clutch Parts:

11627830668 - clutch pivot pin
11211720310 - pilot bearing
21207548052 - pressure plate bolts x 6
Still have used oem clutch setup from before rogue setup could that be any use?
THANKS IN ADVANCE...

Why did you post the exact same thing in three different threads?

sly1types · Sat, Dec-18-2010, 03:31:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Obioban

Agreed with everyone else-- don't put the UUC stuff in, it's garbage. Our track car came with a UUC clutch in it, it destroyed itself. My friend put their setup in his e39 M5 (and had UUC do the install, so the fault didn't lie there)-- the clutch would let go if he floored it in any gear. Broken in properly, and this was after it was fully engaged, not as he was shifting. GARBAGE!

Things I replaced when I did my clutch:
throw out bearing
pressure plate
slave cylinder
pilot bearing
rear main seal
guibo
tranny mounts
engine mounts.

At the time my car had ~100,000 miles on it and my goal was to secure the entire driveline for another 100,000 miles.

agreed!

I would defiantly do the throw our bearing...

d3x74 · Sat, Dec-18-2010, 03:45:22 PM

Any more info on the SS clutch line?

I have it and am about to have it installed but if it makes too much noise or makes the clutch too hard to depress I'd rather not get it put on.

Sat, Nov-28-2009, 01:43:42 AM	#11
Obioban M3Forum Sponsor Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 23,464 In the garage: '95 BMW M3 '05 BMW M3 Reputation: 0 Location: SE PA	Agreed with everyone else-- don't put the UUC stuff in, it's garbage. Our track car came with a UUC clutch in it, it destroyed itself. My friend put their setup in his e39 M5 (and had UUC do the install, so the fault didn't lie there)-- the clutch would let go if he floored it in any gear. Broken in properly, and this was after it was fully engaged, not as he was shifting. GARBAGE! Things I replaced when I did my clutch: throw out bearing pressure plate slave cylinder pilot bearing rear main seal guibo tranny mounts engine mounts. At the time my car had ~100,000 miles on it and my goal was to secure the entire driveline for another 100,000 miles. __________________ Current Cars: 2005 IR/IR M3, 2003 TiAg M5, 1995 S50 B32 GT3 RS Green M3 Race Car _____Former Cars: 2004 TiAg/IR M3, 1996 TV/black M3, 1995 AW M3 shell Useful stuff: Objective suspension comparison, DIY suspension install VIDEOS (e36 version), Stick Driving Basics, e46 Climate Control, Better Fuel Economy 101, 10W-60 TWS Everything on the car: Mod List __________ HighRes M Wallpapers (Misc collected pics) <--- save target to desktop Selling: Suspensions, brakes, safety equipment, etc (ask away!) Renting: Valve shim adjustment kit, RTAB tool, Ball joint tool

Sat, Nov-28-2009, 01:46:55 AM	#12
Obioban M3Forum Sponsor Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 23,464 In the garage: '95 BMW M3 '05 BMW M3 Reputation: 0 Location: SE PA	btw, nice dog __________________ Current Cars: 2005 IR/IR M3, 2003 TiAg M5, 1995 S50 B32 GT3 RS Green M3 Race Car _____Former Cars: 2004 TiAg/IR M3, 1996 TV/black M3, 1995 AW M3 shell Useful stuff: Objective suspension comparison, DIY suspension install VIDEOS (e36 version), Stick Driving Basics, e46 Climate Control, Better Fuel Economy 101, 10W-60 TWS Everything on the car: Mod List __________ HighRes M Wallpapers (Misc collected pics) <--- save target to desktop Selling: Suspensions, brakes, safety equipment, etc (ask away!) Renting: Valve shim adjustment kit, RTAB tool, Ball joint tool

Sat, Nov-28-2009, 02:13:30 PM	#14
Fastdog911 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 3,409 Reputation: 0 Location: Overland Park	I put a new driveshaft in as the cost to put that in vs the labor and parts for the guibo was about a even draw... I had it balanced before it was put in. The OEM driveshaft was way out of balance. It had the u joints etc already installed. __________________ [IMG]2002 SMG, Topaz Blue, BHS pulleys, all options. UUC Exhaust, GC Sway bars, SS lines, BHP Pads F1 paddles, GSP brake pedal, Huber Optik 20%, Iforged rims and a bunch of other things.. FOR SALE! 1970 911T Tangerine 1972 911T Albert Blue

Sat, Nov-28-2009, 05:07:33 PM	#15
docwyte Track addict Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 3,632 Reputation: 0 Location: Denver	I plan on going with the JB racing lightweight flywheel and sachs sport clutch when my stock one dies. So far it's holding the VF stage 2 power just fine, has for 12,000 miles now including road course track driving. __________________ '89 Porsche 944 Turbo LS1 475hp track machine '04 Audi A4 Avant Daily Driver

Sat, Nov-28-2009, 06:59:04 PM	#16
ClutchKickChris Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 1,580 Reputation: 0 Location: Tampa	I had a UUC clutch and flywheel setup in my old E36. One of the most expensive setups they offered. Complete absolute garbage. RUN AWAY from UUC __________________ 05 M3 ZCP

Sat, Dec-18-2010, 11:32:07 AM	#17
shirazi89 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 235 Reputation: 0 Location: Los Angeles	Had a Rouge Stage 1 Clutch Kit [http://www.rogueengineering.com/rogue/LTWF/PCS.html] installed about 2-3 years back at Autotalent.My clutch had been slippin slightly for the past week. I thought i needed to replace the fluids or something, so i went ahead and purchased the transmission/diff fluid kit from turner.Guess that wasn't that problem,the clutch crapped out(wont engage) on me yesterday so i had it towed home [Hated the idle chatter anywayz). Plannin to replace with oem sachs kit. Is anything else typically damaged when clutch fails or basically what the kit includes? Turner Suggests/Offers all these items on the clutch page is any of it generally required or it wouldnt be known till opened up and looked at??? Transmission Seals: 23127501580 - shift shaft seal 23121222769 - output seal 23127501328 - input seal Additional Clutch Parts: 11627830668 - clutch pivot pin 11211720310 - pilot bearing 21207548052 - pressure plate bolts x 6 THANKS IN ADVANCE...

Sat, Dec-18-2010, 03:45:22 PM	#20
d3x74 apple pie shtn skip Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 3,201 Reputation: 0	Any more info on the SS clutch line? I have it and am about to have it installed but if it makes too much noise or makes the clutch too hard to depress I'd rather not get it put on. __________________

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