Dyno Results: ESS-46 Supercharged Stroker: 613whp STD, 601whp SAE

**Crybaby Collins** · Tue, Mar-02-2010, 06:02:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beowoulf

Why do you need to make an alias account when you already have an account? http://www.m3forum.net/m3forum/membe...etinfo&u=19312

Uh oh, you are good... I didn't want to start trouble only have a real discussion without dragging other things into it.

Either way, hopefully this can stay on topic regarding the ESS dyno numbers.

Beowoulf · Tue, Mar-02-2010, 06:15:42 AM

I realize you and Sticky made your own forum and have PC as one of your main sponsors but please let's not start another F/I war. It's bad enough that Sticky spams this forum at least once a day.

leletyM3 · Tue, Mar-02-2010, 06:24:55 AM

Great numbers Robert! Did you dyno your car up here in the Bay Area? I am amazed of the number that your Storker ESS is putting down!! Now you have the best E92 outthere!!!

Burrito · Tue, Mar-02-2010, 06:30:03 AM

can we get some videos of that beast moving? Must be awesome, congrats!!!!!!!!

PencilGeek · Tue, Mar-02-2010, 06:37:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leletyM3

Great numbers Robert! Did you dyno your car up here in the Bay Area? I am amazed of the number that your Storker ESS is putting down!! Now you have the best E92 outthere!!!

The car is in SoCal getting ready for the Mojave Mile this weekend. It was dyno'd down in LA.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Burrito

can we get some videos of that beast moving? Must be awesome, congrats!!!!!!!!

I will have videos from the Mojave Mile this weekend -- provided it doesn't rain (rain is in the forecast).

Roman@ESS · Tue, Mar-02-2010, 04:54:47 PM

Robert's graphs look nothing like our standard SC E90 graphs for a reason. When you SC a 4.6 motor VS a 4.0 motor you will have a much different TQ curve. There have only been 2 cars we have ever seen 600 whp from a 4.0 motor. One was this car which is a dealers project car and the other is the GS race car. Both cars run a custom made race tune with less safety margin than our production kits.

Both of these cars are making 600 whp. Both of them are also SC with ESS VT2 kits and they both run full catless exhaust systems. As you can see the 4.6 SC graph has a different power curve based on the difference in displacement.

Mookster · Tue, Mar-02-2010, 05:25:04 PM

Roman, there is a graph on this linK: http://www.****************/showthrea...ng-past-graphs
showing 600whp on stock exhaust im assuming?

Kinda interesting thread, you'd probably wanna join in and give ppl some explanation

Roman@ESS · Tue, Mar-02-2010, 05:41:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mookster

Roman, there is a graph on this linK: http://www.****************/showthrea...ng-past-graphs
showing 600whp on stock exhaust im assuming?

Kinda interesting thread, you'd probably wanna join in and give ppl some explanation

Here is the original post I made. I clearly stated when I posted the dyno that the car had a custom built exhaust system with a custom made software map. You can see for yourself that the information posted on that site is skewed for the owners personal agenda.

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthr...286775&page=23

Roman@ESS · Wed, Mar-03-2010, 01:27:43 AM

The GS racecar was actually one of the ESS E9x M3 R&D cars before it was
converted to a race car for the 2009 race season to test durability
under extreme conditions. This 2007 Euro spec M3 was used in a lot of
the power testing in the winter of 2008 and put down excellent numbers
(560whp and 601whp) in 2 different boost configurations, 601whp was
achieved with 9PSI of boost and this was done to find the limits of the
fuel delivery system and maximum efficient cylinder pressure on 99RON
(Euro premium quality pump fuel).The GS car to this date still runs a
100% original engine and drivetrain with the addition of the VT2 kit.
ESS has never sold or marketed a 9PSI 600whp kit to consumers, the
highest stage currently available from ESS for end users are:

VT2-600 specs :
Price : USD $13,495
Boost pressure: 6.5 PSI
Horsepower: 600 SAE (~510whp)
Torque: 400ft/lbs

Sure, as shown by ESS if you crank up the boost on a VT2 to 9PSI and run
good quality pump fuel (Shell V-Power 99RON) as in the car in question,
the car will make considerably more than at 6.5PSI.

ESS often do this, we crank up the boost to 20-40% more than production
kits and make sure everything works properly at this boost level. This
way we know that there is room for fuel system deviation/age issues and
that there is sufficient safety margin in the production kits. You have
to think and test totally different when you are a large scale kit
developer, than if you build one off cars. Variances must be taken into
consideration.

0-60Motorsports · Fri, Mar-05-2010, 09:31:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crybaby Collins

Uh oh, you are good... I didn't want to start trouble only have a real discussion without dragging other things into it.

Either way, hopefully this can stay on topic regarding the ESS dyno numbers.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beowoulf

I realize you and Sticky made your own forum and have PC as one of your main sponsors but please let's not start another F/I war. It's bad enough that Sticky spams this forum at least once a day.

Hey Beowolf

That link is to MY profile and the poster above is NOT me as we already found out

Thanks Bro

Tue, Mar-02-2010, 06:15:42 AM	#12
Beowoulf Dr. Evil Returns Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 23,232 Reputation: 0	I realize you and Sticky made your own forum and have PC as one of your main sponsors but please let's not start another F/I war. It's bad enough that Sticky spams this forum at least once a day. __________________ Alex

Tue, Mar-02-2010, 06:24:55 AM	#13
leletyM3 640rwhp Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 12,972 Reputation: 0 Location: Bay Area	Great numbers Robert! Did you dyno your car up here in the Bay Area? I am amazed of the number that your Storker ESS is putting down!! Now you have the best E92 outthere!!! __________________ 05 BMW ///M3 SMG - Jet Black/Gray HPF Stg2 Turbo Kit 640rwhp, HPF Stg2 Feramic Clutch, HPF Carbon Fiber Stg3-4 Intake,HPF Catch Can, HPF Carbon Fiber Air Duct, HPF Methanol Switch, HPF Under Brace, HPF Subframe Kit, Custom AEM UEGO and AEM Boost Gauge in the OEM Mirror, Okada Plasma Coils, Eisenmann Race 83x4, Bilstein PSS9, Volk TE37 Time Attack, Toyo 275/30/19 & 245/35/19, Brembo BBK 380mm 6 pots & 345mm, Hardwired V1, 6K HID bulbs, 6K HID Fog Lights, 6K Umnitza Orion V2, Depo Smoked Corners, Solaris Bulbs, Full LEDs interiors,Umnitza LED licence plate lights, 30% Tint All Around, V-CSL V2Front Bumper with Race Lip, OEM CSL Bootlid, V-CSL Diffuser, ///M3 Monochrome, Flat Black Kidneys & Side Grills, Carbon Fiber BMW Emblems, Powerflex RTABs, Dension Ipod ICE>Link Plus, AudioControl unit, Phoenix Gold 600Ti, JL Audio 12W6v2

Tue, Mar-02-2010, 06:30:03 AM	#14
Burrito Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 2,214 Reputation: 0	can we get some videos of that beast moving? Must be awesome, congrats!!!!!!!! __________________ Сайт секс-зна&

Tue, Mar-02-2010, 04:54:47 PM	#16
Roman@ESS Registered User Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 225 Reputation: 0 Location: Phoenix	Robert's graphs look nothing like our standard SC E90 graphs for a reason. When you SC a 4.6 motor VS a 4.0 motor you will have a much different TQ curve. There have only been 2 cars we have ever seen 600 whp from a 4.0 motor. One was this car which is a dealers project car and the other is the GS race car. Both cars run a custom made race tune with less safety margin than our production kits. Both of these cars are making 600 whp. Both of them are also SC with ESS VT2 kits and they both run full catless exhaust systems. As you can see the 4.6 SC graph has a different power curve based on the difference in displacement. __________________ Roman@esstuning.com Web: ESStuning.com Telephone : (480) 389-4377 Facebook: ESS Last edited by Roman@ESS; Tue, Mar-02-2010 at 05:55:58 PM.

Tue, Mar-02-2010, 05:25:04 PM	#17
Mookster Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 3,145 Reputation: 0 Location: Seattle	Roman, there is a graph on this linK: http://www.****************/showthrea...ng-past-graphs showing 600whp on stock exhaust im assuming? Kinda interesting thread, you'd probably wanna join in and give ppl some explanation __________________

Wed, Mar-03-2010, 01:27:43 AM	#19
Roman@ESS Registered User Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 225 Reputation: 0 Location: Phoenix	The GS racecar was actually one of the ESS E9x M3 R&D cars before it was converted to a race car for the 2009 race season to test durability under extreme conditions. This 2007 Euro spec M3 was used in a lot of the power testing in the winter of 2008 and put down excellent numbers (560whp and 601whp) in 2 different boost configurations, 601whp was achieved with 9PSI of boost and this was done to find the limits of the fuel delivery system and maximum efficient cylinder pressure on 99RON (Euro premium quality pump fuel).The GS car to this date still runs a 100% original engine and drivetrain with the addition of the VT2 kit. ESS has never sold or marketed a 9PSI 600whp kit to consumers, the highest stage currently available from ESS for end users are: VT2-600 specs : Price : USD $13,495 Boost pressure: 6.5 PSI Horsepower: 600 SAE (~510whp) Torque: 400ft/lbs Sure, as shown by ESS if you crank up the boost on a VT2 to 9PSI and run good quality pump fuel (Shell V-Power 99RON) as in the car in question, the car will make considerably more than at 6.5PSI. ESS often do this, we crank up the boost to 20-40% more than production kits and make sure everything works properly at this boost level. This way we know that there is room for fuel system deviation/age issues and that there is sufficient safety margin in the production kits. You have to think and test totally different when you are a large scale kit developer, than if you build one off cars. Variances must be taken into consideration. __________________ Roman@esstuning.com Web: ESStuning.com Telephone : (480) 389-4377 Facebook: ESS

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