[cracky]

(Oahu)If you have nothing to contribute but peanut gallery comments than stfu and gtfo. You obviously dont have a clue.

bwm engines arent special /dont require some special black art witch craft when it comes to turbo/super/boost. Basic principles apply to them to...and a lot of info posted in here about supers being more reliable/easier on engines etc etc etc is flat out incorrect.

never mind the fact Ive spent plenty of times in the boost forums already...and just to confirm to you . These engines follow the same basic principles as pretty much every production engine out there.


edit: if ARP's work well with either gasket(oe or mls) then yes the OE hardware does have issues holding the head down at those boost levels/power levels.
just like most OE set ups do across most cars...
Seems the bmw boost guys would learn a lot if they took a look around and learned from other makes/models who have been there done that already.
Our sh*t aint special/magical despite what many fanboys might think.

[OahuMPower]

Originally Posted by cracky

(Oahu)If you have nothing to contribute but peanut gallery comments than stfu and gtfo. You obviously dont have a clue.

bwm engines arent special /dont require some special black art witch craft when it comes to turbo/super/boost. Basic principles apply to them to...and a lot of info posted in here about supers being more reliable/easier on engines etc etc etc is flat out incorrect.

never mind the fact Ive spent plenty of times in the boost forums already...and just to confirm to you . These engines follow the same basic principles as pretty much every production engine out there.

thank you captain obvious...

what EXPERIENCE do YOU have though with E36 FI applications?

[cracky]

being that you clearly dont have any FI experience... I dont see why it matters...but
I have actually been apart of a few e36 installs/tuning. as well as spending time on the bmw specific FI forums...forget all my other car/FI experience...from building engines to actually tuning them myself(successfully and unsuccessfully)

I am by no means an expert and learn new stuff everyday...but some of the mis info in here(and some other threads) are false and misleading at a basic level. I am not even against s/c set ups for these cars. they have their place.

[Supered ///M]

Originally Posted by cracky

being that you clearly dont have any FI experience... I dont see why it matters...but
I have actually been apart of a few e36 installs/tuning. as well as spending time on the bmw specific FI forums...forget all my other car/FI experience...from building engines to actually tuning them myself(successfully and unsuccessfully)

I am by no means an expert and learn new stuff everyday...but some of the mis info in here(and some other threads) are false and misleading at a basic level.

would.not.buy.said.engine

[cracky]

oh, the supercharged peanut gallery has arrived.

[Braymond141]

Originally Posted by Supered ///M

would.not.buy.said.engine

But you can give him credit for doing it.

[Mad Dog 20/20]

Originally Posted by cracky

edit: if ARP's work well with either gasket(oe or mls) then yes the OE hardware does have issues holding the head down at those boost levels/power levels.

No, not really.

MLS HG's (among others) have trouble sealing on bone stock S52's. Has nothing to do w/ the OE head bolts not being up to the task, however. Engines w/ iron blocks and aluminum heads (FYI, S52's have this "feature") are known to be hard on HG's due to the different expansion rates of the metals.

The ARP stuff allows for much more clamping force to be applied - so it, in theory, increases the sealing properties of whatever gasket it may be clamping. The older-design ARP studs, for example, did not achieve this.

BTW, did you get this from my above post (added later):

"You apparently need to develop an understanding of the difference between "cylinder pressure" and "boost pressure". Peak torque is made at an rpm where peak cylinder pressure is reached. With a turbo S52, max boost pressure is also reached at this same rpm. With a centri SC, peak torque and max boost occurr at different rpm so cyl pressures are less (and so is trq output). "

[OahuMPower]

Originally Posted by cracky

being that you clearly dont have any FI experience... I dont see why it matters...but
I have actually been apart of a few e36 installs/tuning. as well as spending time on the bmw specific FI forums...forget all my other car/FI experience...from building engines to actually tuning them myself(successfully and unsuccessfully)

I am by no means an expert and learn new stuff everyday...but some of the mis info in here(and some other threads) are false and misleading at a basic level. I am not even against s/c set ups for these cars. they have their place.

i just find it funny you were arguing S/C exhaust sound, with someone who has a S/C E36 M3, that was previously NA

I also find it hilarious you are arguing E36 FI principles with someone who has a stg 2 AA SC kit, and someone else who had a 450+ rwhp stg II SC kit, who has since gone turbo...

[Braymond141]

[cracky]

thats great.
money can buy people a lot of things. doesnt mean they have a clue about how it all works.

and no I missed that edit.
and it basically means nothing at the end of the day when comparing the two boosting methods/reliability.
Its all in the tune.