[EKaru]

Originally Posted by Cyrus

The base price isn't bad, it's the options that kill you. Cool car though.

Sparsely optioned, it's as reasonable as you can get with a Porsche purchase....

For comparison sake here's the data panel from the Boxster Spyder road test:

Specifications
VEHICLE TYPE: mid-engine, rear-wheel-drive, 2-passenger, 2-door roadster
PRICE AS TESTED: $69,515 (base price: $62,150)
ENGINE TYPE: DOHC 24-valve flat-6, aluminum block and heads, direct fuel injection
Displacement: 210 cu in, 3436cc
Power (SAE net): 320 bhp @ 7200 rpm
Torque (SAE net): 273 lb-ft @ 4750 rpm
TRANSMISSION: 6-speed manual
DIMENSIONS:
Wheelbase: 95.1 in Length: 172.1 in
Width: 70.9 in Height: 50.2 in
Curb weight: 2920 lb
C/D TEST RESULTS:
Zero to 60 mph: 4.3 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 10.5 sec
Zero to 130 mph: 19.2 sec
Street start, 5–60 mph: 5.2 sec
Standing ¼-mile: 12.9 sec @ 109 mph
Top speed (drag limited): 166 mph
Braking, 70–0 mph: 154 ft
Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 0.96 g
FUEL ECONOMY:
EPA city/highway driving: 19/26 mpg
C/D observed: 17 mpg

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...take-road-test

[newnewman2002]

Originally Posted by EKaru

It's not just a few grand... We're talking like $30-40K

I could buy a Panamera Turbo, but I cannot justify spending the extra bucks of my hard earned money over say a CLS63. Price does matter even in the $100K range. Anyone who thinks otherwise isn't earning the money or has a fantastic net worth.

If you really wanted the Panamera though, it wouldn't be a concern for you. Let me put my point of view into different terms for you. In your other thread, you were discussing the mileage/performance of your ML Diesel SUV. IMO the Touareg TDI is just as great of a vehicle (if not more so, all things considered) for significantly less money. Now one could say "how is the ML going to sell when it gets worse mileage than the Touareg, is slower to accelerate, and costs significantly more money? For whatever reasons, you went with the ML over its competitors. The panamera is the same thing IMO. Just because they have similar specs (CLS and Panamera) doesn't mean they need to share the same pricing structure to compete (if it can even be argued that they compete at all)

[EKaru]

Originally Posted by newnewman2002

If you really wanted the Panamera though, it wouldn't be a concern for you. Let me put my point of view into different terms for you. In your other thread, you were discussing the mileage/performance of your ML Diesel SUV. IMO the Touareg TDI is just as great of a vehicle (if not more so, all things considered) for significantly less money. Now one could say "how is the ML going to sell when it gets worse mileage than the Touareg, is slower to accelerate, and costs significantly more money? For whatever reasons, you went with the ML over its competitors. The panamera is the same thing IMO. Just because they have similar specs (CLS and Panamera) doesn't mean they need to share the same pricing structure to compete (if it can even be argued that they compete at all)

The discussion I was having with greggb was with regard to the BMW Gran Coupe. All I was saying is that I felt that BMW had overpriced the vehicle and there's no reason why it should be priced where it is. The 6-series coupe is also overpriced, which is why dealers can't move them:
http://www.m3forum.net/m3forum/showp...1&postcount=22


Mercedes is on a higher class level in terms of prestige than VW, so the Mercedes equivalent product (ML) are more pricey. BMW is on the same level as Mercedes-Benz, therefore there's no reason for the higher pricing of the gran coupe. Agreed?

[newnewman2002]

Originally Posted by EKaru

The discussion I was having with greggb was with regard to the BMW Gran Coupe. All I was saying is that I felt that BMW had overpriced the vehicle and there's no reason why it should be priced where it is. The 6-series coupe is also overpriced, which is why dealers can't move them:
http://www.m3forum.net/m3forum/showp...1&postcount=22


Mercedes is on a higher class level in terms of prestige than VW, so the Mercedes equivalent product (ML) are more pricey. BMW is on the same level as Mercedes-Benz, therefore there's no reason for the higher pricing of the gran coupe. Agreed?

Reading fail I thought you were both comparing the Panamera to the CLS.

I'll just excuse myself now...

[Ben Z.]

Originally Posted by newnewman2002

I hate to say this, but I actually agree with GreggB here. For someone that is looking to purchase an 85k toy like this, a few grand isn't going to sway their purchase decision IMO.

$140k - $85k is $55k.. That's a pretty significant difference at that price range.

I'm not sure why people think being able to afford a car at $85k automatically means you have a limitless budget.

[EKaru]

Race between 991 Cab and Boxster S. Stupid race because the 911 had PDK and the Boxster S a manual..

Drag race : Porsche Boxster S VS 911 Carrera Cab (Motorsport) - YouTube

Drag race : Porsche Boxster S VS 911 Carrera Cab (Motorsport) - YouTube

Boxster S top speed test

New Porsche Boxster S PDK 277 km/h Top Speed Balocco Proving Ground Full HD - YouTube

New Porsche Boxster S PDK 277 km/h Top Speed Balocco Proving Ground Full HD - YouTube

[Mr.B///MW]

lmao 85k

[jph28]

Great car, minus the lols regarding price and the number of buttons on the frickin' center console!

[samosa]

thats it? 277?

[EKaru]

Originally Posted by Saag

thats it? 277?

How fast do you need to go?????