Castrol TWS vs Castrol Edge (both 10w60)

pal · Thu, Jan-31-2013, 09:18:39 PM

I picked up some bulk oil from a seller on the forums and got a mix of TWS 10w60 and Edge 10w60. Both say that they are formulated for M engines.

However, the BMW part number on the Edge is different (83 12 2 219 730) and realoem.com indicates this to be for a BMW motorcycle (HP2 Sport K29).

Now I know Castrol is in the midst of re-branding all their synthetic oils to EDGE and was wondering if some of you have started getting this oil from your dealers as well?

Here are side by side pics -

Old part number -

username11 · Thu, Jan-31-2013, 09:22:24 PM

http://m3forum.net/m3forum/showthread.php?t=420690

Zoomz · Thu, Jan-31-2013, 09:36:33 PM

Same oil they just put different sticker on the bottle.

Miami M3 · Thu, Jan-31-2013, 09:37:05 PM

same shit, new name (but cheaper for a change) (that is edge professional and TWS 10w60)

terraphantm · Thu, Jan-31-2013, 09:43:10 PM

They're not identical. Edge professional is rated API SM (vs. API SJ) and has a slightly lower viscosity

Even if you convert to 99 percent confidence, the difference is still outside the margin of error.

pal · Thu, Jan-31-2013, 09:49:07 PM

Did we ever get the Blackstone report for the base oil (EDGE Pro TWS 10w60)? If not, and some of you are interested, we can start a quick fund and I will send out a sample to Blackstone.

But based on people's feedback, both ECS and dealers are now selling the EDGE Pro TWS 10w60. I am inclined to say that while different, it should not impact the motor adversely if we do 5K mile oil changes.

Shimmy23 · Thu, Jan-31-2013, 10:17:56 PM

^ how much does it cost?

pal · Thu, Jan-31-2013, 10:36:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shimmy23

^ how much does it cost?

ECS lists it for $12.25 vs 13.44 for OE; but both are sold as Castrol EDGE Professional TWS 10w60.

Castrol EDGE Professional TWS 10w60
Kinematic: 22.7 mm2/s (22.7 cSt) at 100°C
Color: Amber[Light]
Odor: Mild
Flashpoint: 203°C (397.4°)

Castrol TWS Motorsport 10w60
Kinematic: 24.5 mm2/s (24.5 cSt) at 100°C
Color: Brown
Odor: Oily
Flashpoint: 200°C (392°F)

nrubenstein · Fri, Feb-01-2013, 12:55:18 AM

TWS, unfortunately, has a dramatically lower pour point. It makes me wonder if the Edge Professional lost some of what made it special. Unfortunately, we don't have any real data.

KhanArt · Fri, Feb-01-2013, 02:00:14 AM

Sub'd

Thu, Jan-31-2013, 09:18:39 PM	#1
pal Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 221 Reputation: 0	Castrol TWS vs Castrol Edge (both 10w60) I picked up some bulk oil from a seller on the forums and got a mix of TWS 10w60 and Edge 10w60. Both say that they are formulated for M engines. However, the BMW part number on the Edge is different (83 12 2 219 730) and realoem.com indicates this to be for a BMW motorcycle (HP2 Sport K29). Now I know Castrol is in the midst of re-branding all their synthetic oils to EDGE and was wondering if some of you have started getting this oil from your dealers as well? Here are side by side pics - Old part number -

Thu, Jan-31-2013, 09:22:24 PM	#2
username11 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 841 In the garage: '02 BMW M3 '11 BMW M3 Reputation: 0	Re: Castrol TWS vs Castrol Edge (both 10w60) http://m3forum.net/m3forum/showthread.php?t=420690 __________________

Thu, Jan-31-2013, 09:36:33 PM	#3
Zoomz Vroom.. Vroom..... Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,479 Reputation: 0 Location: Lancaster, PA	Re: Castrol TWS vs Castrol Edge (both 10w60) Same oil they just put different sticker on the bottle. __________________ Far from stock

Thu, Jan-31-2013, 09:37:05 PM	#4
Miami M3 If I only Had Gummybears ... Join Date: Dec 2005 Age: 36 Posts: 12,152 In the garage: '12 BMW X5 Tdi '02 BMW M3 Reputation: 0 Location: wherever i'm at	Re: Castrol TWS vs Castrol Edge (both 10w60) same shit, new name (but cheaper for a change) (that is edge professional and TWS 10w60) __________________ ------- Official Boobie Connoisseur Number Fifty-Four

Thu, Jan-31-2013, 09:43:10 PM	#5
terraphantm Registered User Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 2,384 In the garage: '05 BMW M3 Reputation: 0 Location: Here and there	Re: Castrol TWS vs Castrol Edge (both 10w60) They're not identical. Edge professional is rated API SM (vs. API SJ) and has a slightly lower viscosity Even if you convert to 99 percent confidence, the difference is still outside the margin of error. __________________

Thu, Jan-31-2013, 09:49:07 PM	#6
pal Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 221 Reputation: 0	Re: Castrol TWS vs Castrol Edge (both 10w60) Did we ever get the Blackstone report for the base oil (EDGE Pro TWS 10w60)? If not, and some of you are interested, we can start a quick fund and I will send out a sample to Blackstone. But based on people's feedback, both ECS and dealers are now selling the EDGE Pro TWS 10w60. I am inclined to say that while different, it should not impact the motor adversely if we do 5K mile oil changes.

Thu, Jan-31-2013, 10:17:56 PM	#7
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