BMW M3 Forum
BMW M3 Forum BMW M3 Gallery BMW M3 Reviews BMW M3 Social Groups BMW M3 Chat M3Forum Sponsors >>
Loading


Mobile M3forum
Go Back   BMW M3 Forum.com (E30 M3 | E36 M3 | E46 M3 | E92 M3 | F80/X) > BMW M3 Discussions > E46 M3 (2001-2006)
Tire Rack Buy Winter Tires Now!
Not a member? Register Now!
Register Gallery All AlbumsBlogs Garage Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read Calendar FAQ

E46 M3 (2001-2006) Engine: S54 - Max Hp: 333 hp at 7,900 rpm / 262 lb/ft at 4,900 rpm
Total Produced: 45,000+ - Years Produced: 2001 to 2006.


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old Thu, Jan-31-2013, 09:18:39 PM   #1
pal
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 222
Reputation: 0 pal is on a distinguished road

United States




Default Castrol TWS vs Castrol Edge (both 10w60)

I picked up some bulk oil from a seller on the forums and got a mix of TWS 10w60 and Edge 10w60. Both say that they are formulated for M engines.

However, the BMW part number on the Edge is different (83 12 2 219 730) and realoem.com indicates this to be for a BMW motorcycle (HP2 Sport K29).

Now I know Castrol is in the midst of re-branding all their synthetic oils to EDGE and was wondering if some of you have started getting this oil from your dealers as well?

Here are side by side pics -




Old part number -
Jump to top pal is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Register now and remove these ads
Old Thu, Jan-31-2013, 09:22:24 PM   #2
username11
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 1,310
In the garage:
Reputation: 0 username11 is on a distinguished road

United States




Default Re: Castrol TWS vs Castrol Edge (both 10w60)

http://m3forum.net/m3forum/showthread.php?t=420690
__________________


Quote:
Originally Posted by Dafoe
Bro, I am Senior Systems Engineer for Bershire Hathaway and have been for the past 14 years.... You want pics of me and Warren Buffet? I got em... I am not in Marketing bro.
Jump to top username11 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Thu, Jan-31-2013, 09:36:33 PM   #3
Zoomz
Vroom.. Vroom.....
 
Zoomz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 3,774
Reputation: 0 Zoomz is on a distinguished road
Location: Lancaster, PA

United States




Default Re: Castrol TWS vs Castrol Edge (both 10w60)

Same oil they just put different sticker on the bottle.
__________________

Far from stock
Jump to top Zoomz is online now   Reply With Quote
Old Thu, Jan-31-2013, 09:37:05 PM   #4
Miami M3
If I only Had Gummybears ...
 
Miami M3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Age: 37
Posts: 12,697
In the garage:
Reputation: 0 Miami M3 has disabled reputation
Location: wherever i'm at

Switzerland




Default Re: Castrol TWS vs Castrol Edge (both 10w60)

same shit, new name (but cheaper for a change) (that is edge professional and TWS 10w60)
__________________

-------
Official Boobie Connoisseur Number Fifty-Four
Jump to top Miami M3 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old Thu, Jan-31-2013, 09:43:10 PM   #5
terraphantm
Moderator
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 4,772
In the garage:
Reputation: 11 terraphantm is on a distinguished road
Location: NEPA

United States




Default Re: Castrol TWS vs Castrol Edge (both 10w60)

They're not identical. Edge professional is rated API SM (vs. API SJ) and has a slightly lower viscosity

Even if you convert to 99 percent confidence, the difference is still outside the margin of error.
__________________
Jump to top terraphantm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Thu, Jan-31-2013, 09:49:07 PM   #6
pal
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 222
Reputation: 0 pal is on a distinguished road

United States




Default Re: Castrol TWS vs Castrol Edge (both 10w60)

Did we ever get the Blackstone report for the base oil (EDGE Pro TWS 10w60)? If not, and some of you are interested, we can start a quick fund and I will send out a sample to Blackstone.

But based on people's feedback, both ECS and dealers are now selling the EDGE Pro TWS 10w60. I am inclined to say that while different, it should not impact the motor adversely if we do 5K mile oil changes.
Jump to top pal is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Thu, Jan-31-2013, 10:17:56 PM   #7
Shimmy23
Addicted
 
Shimmy23's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 3,810
In the garage:
Reputation: 0 Shimmy23 is on a distinguished road
Location: Maple Valley

United States




Default Re: Castrol TWS vs Castrol Edge (both 10w60)

^ how much does it cost?
__________________
Jump to top Shimmy23 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old Thu, Jan-31-2013, 10:36:19 PM   #8
pal
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 222
Reputation: 0 pal is on a distinguished road

United States




Default Re: Castrol TWS vs Castrol Edge (both 10w60)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shimmy23 View Post
^ how much does it cost?
ECS lists it for $12.25 vs 13.44 for OE; but both are sold as Castrol EDGE Professional TWS 10w60.

Castrol EDGE Professional TWS 10w60
Kinematic: 22.7 mm2/s (22.7 cSt) at 100°C
Color: Amber[Light]
Odor: Mild
Flashpoint: 203°C (397.4°)

Castrol TWS Motorsport 10w60
Kinematic: 24.5 mm2/s (24.5 cSt) at 100°C
Color: Brown
Odor: Oily
Flashpoint: 200°C (392°F)
Jump to top pal is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Fri, Feb-01-2013, 12:55:18 AM   #9
nrubenstein
*******
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Age: 31
Posts: 7,649
Reputation: 0 nrubenstein will become famous soon enough
Location: Washington, DC





Default Re: Castrol TWS vs Castrol Edge (both 10w60)

TWS, unfortunately, has a dramatically lower pour point. It makes me wonder if the Edge Professional lost some of what made it special. Unfortunately, we don't have any real data.
__________________
2006 GMC Sierra 2500HD 4WD Duramax LBZ/Allison
2002 BMW M3 Alpinweiß/Black - JBL MS-62C, IDQ-12v3, JBL MS-8
1999 323i KP/GTS2 Alpinweiß - Hood-in-the-windshield mod
1990 325is Brilliantrot/Tan - GC/Bilstein, Sway
1989 325is Alpinweiß/Black - S50B32 (321hp), GC/Koni, Sways, BBS RX, Hybrid C61-2, Sundown SA-12, JBL MS-8
1989 M3 Alpinweiß/Black - S62B50 in progress...

Hers: 1996 Porsche 911 Turbo Black/Black
Hers: 1988 325iX Coupe Diamondschwartz/Black 5spd - Korman lengthened front driveshaft, Cam, Bilstein, H&R Sport, snow chains.

Jump to top nrubenstein is online now   Reply With Quote
Old Fri, Feb-01-2013, 02:00:14 AM   #10
KhanArt
CLEAN & SIMPLE
 
KhanArt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 2,716
In the garage:
Reputation: 0 KhanArt is on a distinguished road
Location: DC/MD/VA

United States




Default Re: Castrol TWS vs Castrol Edge (both 10w60)

Sub'd
__________________
2004 Jet Black/Cinnamon 6spd ///M3
Build///Journal
Tuning Tech Frank Smith /// Custom Performance Innovations /// Active Autowerke
Jump to top KhanArt is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump



All times are GMT. The time now is 04:10:37 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.6
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
M3Forum.com and M3forum.net is in no way sponsored, endorsed or affiliated by or with BMW NA / BMW AG or any of it's subsidiaries or vendors.
BMW and M3 (E90 M3 | E92 M3 | E93 M3 | E46 M3 | E36 M3 | E30 M3) are registered trademarks of BMW AG.
M3Forum Terms of Service
Copyright ©1999-2014 M3Forum.com
Discussing Castrol TWS vs Castrol Edge (both 10w60) in the E46 M3 (2001-2006) Forum - Engine: S54 - Max Hp: 333 hp at 7,900 rpm / 262 lb/ft at 4,900 rpm
Total Produced: 45,000+ - Years Produced: 2001 to 2006. at BMW M3 Forum.com (E30 M3 | E36 M3 | E46 M3 | E92 M3 | F80/X)